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I'm sympathetic to the idea that society treating people with university degrees better than those without is harmful in a sociological sense and likely to incr
by Zak 3y ago
I'm sympathetic to the idea that society treating people with university degrees better than those without is harmful in a sociological sense and likely to increase cheating in universities. I'm less sympathetic to individual students actually cheating in the manner described.
The article says the test was take home, meaning in a practical sense, they could access any resources they wanted while taking the test. They did not need to memorize material as your comment suggests, and would have had the opportunity to copy answers.
> Were they copying someone else's tests?
Yes. They were copying what they thought were a previous student's answers to the same test.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago> Yes. They were copying what they thought were a previous student's answers to the same test. It's fucking multiple choice. If they got correct answers, then their answers would be identical to previous student's correct answers, by definition. If doing that is cheating, then only the first students to ever get those questions on a test could pass it. There's some sort of widespread mental illness affecting a large percentage of the population, such that apparently so many of you see this as cheating. You get that, right? If you learn the answers to questions that end up appearing on the test prior to the test commencing, and you put those answers down on the test because you have memorized them (you know them in other words), this can't ever be cheating. That's not what "cheating" means.
- foldr 3y agoMultiple choice is a red herring here. One can equally memorize answers to a non multiple choice test. If the point of the test is to check that students understand the material, and if students aren't allowed to look at the answers of previous tests ("looking at other tests without the instructor’s permission counts as cheating"), then memorizing the correct answers to previous tests is cheating.
- randombits0 3y agoMemorizing the material is the goal! Being an ethics class, I would have anticipated the gaming of the cheater site. When I saw the wrong answers, I would have laughed my ass off and gone on with life.
- foldr 3y agoMemorizing A/B/C/D answers to a particular selection of exam questions is not the goal of any sensible class.
- np- 3y agoTo be clear, you’re saying that memorizing a sequence of multiple choice answers (like ABBCADADD etc…) is not “cheating” and equivalent to properly learning the material? Yeah… I don’t think you’d have many people agreeing with you there. Imagine if that’s how your doctor got his medical degree.