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I don't belive the richness of culture would diminish in any way, and I can see a case that it would increase. Imagine that all the effort that goes to milking

I don't belive the richness of culture would diminish in any way, and I can see a case that it would increase. Imagine that all the effort that goes to milking tired movie and song copyrights to extract value went into new stuff. Things might look slightly different, but I don't see that they could be worse.

balderdash 3y ago
In order for your argument to be true - you either believe that: a) a copyright holder’s ability to monetize their work would not be impacted, or b) that all the people that currently make their living creating copyrighted works, would continue to invest their time and money to produce their works regardless of their ability to be compensated I personally find both premises to be unsupportable.
- version_five 3y ago
  You made up two things I didn't say and then disagreed with them? That's an interesting discussion style.
  - jlawson 3y ago
    So you do believe that creators' ability to monetize would be impacted, and they won't be investing as much time/money into their creations. But you also believe that the richness of culture would not diminish in any way. I wish you'd explain what you think would happen. (I can say that if copyright stopped existing my business would also immediately stop existing and I'd have to find a new career or a new country).
  - balderdash 3y ago
    Well certain premises must be true to support the argument that you put forth. Those are the principal ones I could come up with, but by all means enlighten us as to the mechanism that will make creators want to create more rather than less under no copyright?
- worik 3y ago
  > that all the people that currently make their living creating copyrighted works, Who are you talking about? What is their living like? From what I can see writer's and musicians mostly live in poverty unless they are hobbyists. Like me. I produce audio art (eg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrAAPbg81ks https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrAAPbg81ks). No thought, ever, to copyright.
  - balderdash 3y ago
    Umm the millions of people that are employed by/earn their living from video game companies, movie and tv, magazines and newspapers, publishing houses, and musing labels. Not to mention all the royalties paid to individual artists etc. (I.e. ~$36b in US book sales, assume a ~15% royalty is ~$6b paid to creators). And yes plenty of people try unsuccessfully to make a career from their art or just do it for fun as a hobby.

balderdash 3y ago

In order for your argument to be true - you either believe that: a) a copyright holder’s ability to monetize their work would not be impacted, or b) that all the people that currently make their living creating copyrighted works, would continue to invest their time and money to produce their works regardless of their ability to be compensated I personally find both premises to be unsupportable.

version_five 3y ago
You made up two things I didn't say and then disagreed with them? That's an interesting discussion style.
- jlawson 3y ago
  So you do believe that creators' ability to monetize would be impacted, and they won't be investing as much time/money into their creations. But you also believe that the richness of culture would not diminish in any way. I wish you'd explain what you think would happen. (I can say that if copyright stopped existing my business would also immediately stop existing and I'd have to find a new career or a new country).
- balderdash 3y ago
  Well certain premises must be true to support the argument that you put forth. Those are the principal ones I could come up with, but by all means enlighten us as to the mechanism that will make creators want to create more rather than less under no copyright?
worik 3y ago
> that all the people that currently make their living creating copyrighted works, Who are you talking about? What is their living like? From what I can see writer's and musicians mostly live in poverty unless they are hobbyists. Like me. I produce audio art (eg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrAAPbg81ks https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrAAPbg81ks). No thought, ever, to copyright.
- balderdash 3y ago
  Umm the millions of people that are employed by/earn their living from video game companies, movie and tv, magazines and newspapers, publishing houses, and musing labels. Not to mention all the royalties paid to individual artists etc. (I.e. ~$36b in US book sales, assume a ~15% royalty is ~$6b paid to creators). And yes plenty of people try unsuccessfully to make a career from their art or just do it for fun as a hobby.