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For all y'all saying "I'm still using X because Wayland isn't ready"... this is your reminder that X is DEPRECATED. The entity committing resources to maintaini

For all y'all saying "I'm still using X because Wayland isn't ready"... this is your reminder that X is DEPRECATED. The entity committing resources to maintaining it -- Red Hat -- has abandoned it and committed to Wayland only going forward. Unless another entity steps up with funding, X is doomed to bit rot and Wayland is the future. The responsible thing to do is to suck it up, file bug reports, and write code and/or documentation to improve the Wayland side of things because that's where the money and developers are -- period. (And before you slag off Red Hat, remember that they are the Atlas holding up the entire Linux userland ecosystem for the past couple decades or so now.)

bandrami 3y ago
(Yet another reminder that Xenocara exists, is still being maintained, and runs on Linux, or at least did a year ago)
- i2cmaster 3y ago
  OpenBSD always seems to have the sanity you would normally expect from GNU/Linux. I already run their WM, I might switch entirely to their OS.
- bitwize 3y ago
  But Mr. Anderson, what good is an X server... if no toolkits support it?
  - bandrami 3y ago
    This is the silliness I'm talking about. Nobody's going to go rip X support out of toolkits. Distros still ship token ring support; they're not going to literally "get rid of" X either.
    - bitwize 3y ago
      > This is the silliness I'm talking about. Nobody's going to go rip X support out of toolkits. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5004 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5004
      - bandrami 3y ago
        Nobody is going to take the effort to actually remove support from released versions of GTK. You're just being silly. Will GTK 5 not support X? Possibly! I don't really care though. I pretty much just use 2 as it is when I have to use GTK. But GTK and QT still support DirectFB, which is almost 2 decades old at this point. X isn't going away.

bandrami 3y ago

(Yet another reminder that Xenocara exists, is still being maintained, and runs on Linux, or at least did a year ago)

i2cmaster 3y ago
OpenBSD always seems to have the sanity you would normally expect from GNU/Linux. I already run their WM, I might switch entirely to their OS.
bitwize 3y ago
But Mr. Anderson, what good is an X server... if no toolkits support it?
- bandrami 3y ago
  This is the silliness I'm talking about. Nobody's going to go rip X support out of toolkits. Distros still ship token ring support; they're not going to literally "get rid of" X either.
  - bitwize 3y ago
    > This is the silliness I'm talking about. Nobody's going to go rip X support out of toolkits. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5004 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5004
    - bandrami 3y ago
      Nobody is going to take the effort to actually remove support from released versions of GTK. You're just being silly. Will GTK 5 not support X? Possibly! I don't really care though. I pretty much just use 2 as it is when I have to use GTK. But GTK and QT still support DirectFB, which is almost 2 decades old at this point. X isn't going away.