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The difference being that X development has essentially _stopped_ because it's so complicated that nobody wants to touch it anymore. Does it work? Yes. Is it ma

The difference being that X development has essentially _stopped_ because it's so complicated that nobody wants to touch it anymore. Does it work? Yes. Is it mature? Yes. Are apps more compatible with it? Yes. Will it evolve from there? No. While Wayland has been picking the slack slowly, it has been usable for years now and apart from the screen sharing issues and occasional driver problem. Wayland will continue to get better and make a graphics stack that's more adapted to modern needs.

GauntletWizard 3y ago
I'm one of the many users who will take a mature, well tested product over one that's experiencing "Ongoing Development" and lacks many of the features they need. Too much ink has already been shed around the faults of Wayland, but I'll put it pretty simply - The people on Wayland have no business designing user interfaces and are questionable at developer interfaces.
- kaba0 3y ago
  If you mix up wayland with user interfaces, you are not even in the ballpark of getting the deal — pretty pretentious to have such a strong opinion on something you know jackshit about. Especially that the people on Wayland are literally the ex-maintainers of X.
bandrami 3y ago
The OpenBSD team is still developing the Xenocara X11 system, though AFAIK they aren't particularly adding features because the system is feature-complete (they aren't adding features to relayd either but it's not "abandoned" in any sense: as much as it conflicts with the CADT philosophy it's actually fine for software to be mature). While I don't like making predictions, if I had to guess I'd guess that in a decade's time the OpenBSD team will be maintaining the upstream display server for most Linux distros just like they maintain the encrypted shell and the BGP server for them.

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The difference being that X development has essentially _stopped_ because it's so complicated that nobody wants to touch it anymore. Does it work? Yes. Is it ma

by speed_spread 3y ago

GauntletWizard 3y ago
I'm one of the many users who will take a mature, well tested product over one that's experiencing "Ongoing Development" and lacks many of the features they need. Too much ink has already been shed around the faults of Wayland, but I'll put it pretty simply - The people on Wayland have no business designing user interfaces and are questionable at developer interfaces.
- kaba0 3y ago
  If you mix up wayland with user interfaces, you are not even in the ballpark of getting the deal — pretty pretentious to have such a strong opinion on something you know jackshit about. Especially that the people on Wayland are literally the ex-maintainers of X.
bandrami 3y ago
The OpenBSD team is still developing the Xenocara X11 system, though AFAIK they aren't particularly adding features because the system is feature-complete (they aren't adding features to relayd either but it's not "abandoned" in any sense: as much as it conflicts with the CADT philosophy it's actually fine for software to be mature). While I don't like making predictions, if I had to guess I'd guess that in a decade's time the OpenBSD team will be maintaining the upstream display server for most Linux distros just like they maintain the encrypted shell and the BGP server for them.