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I wonder why intelligent species in the sea are revelling? Could it be sonar, shipping noise, food chain disturbance. We trousered apes are so primitive and ut

I wonder why intelligent species in the sea are revelling? Could it be sonar, shipping noise, food chain disturbance. We trousered apes are so primitive and utterly dim when it comes to interspecies communication.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> We trousered apes are so primitive and utterly dim when it comes to interspecies communication I know this is a common and cute framing. But it's escapist. We're the planet's apex species using our unrivaled control to make it uninhabitable for other complex life. The Earth may not care about the damage we're doing, but the species that are dying would prefer not to. There isn't a rebellion they can mount against us. Their entire survival depends on our giving a shit.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
  It's also completely wrong when you consider the number of domesticated animals that need to be communicated with by humans on a daily basis. My wife's a horse trainer: she just finished doing exactly that a few minutes ago.
- stjohnswarts 3y ago
  We think we are the apex species but at some point we'll meet a fungi or bacteria strain that's way more apex than we are.
  - snapcaster 3y ago
    I don't know about that, it seems like many have tried and humans beat all of them
permo-w 3y ago
this is the crux of the matter. as a species we’re so careless that if this is a warning or revenge for something, we don’t know what because there are too many options to choose from. this whole thread is an illustration of that. "could it be noise pollution?". "has an influential orca been hit by a rudder?”. "perhaps it's overfishing?", etc. even if it’s none of those things, and this is just a fad, it’s a sorry state of affairs
dfc 3y ago
What other animals excel at interspecies communication?
- George83728 3y ago
  Birds I bet. Parrots can kind of, sort of, talk to humans. And besides that, I bet many species of birds can effectively communicate with others. There are dozens of species of crow, I bet many if not all of them can understand at least some of what the others are saying.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> We trousered apes are so primitive and utterly dim when it comes to interspecies communication I know this is a common and cute framing. But it's escapist. We're the planet's apex species using our unrivaled control to make it uninhabitable for other complex life. The Earth may not care about the damage we're doing, but the species that are dying would prefer not to. There isn't a rebellion they can mount against us. Their entire survival depends on our giving a shit.

HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
It's also completely wrong when you consider the number of domesticated animals that need to be communicated with by humans on a daily basis. My wife's a horse trainer: she just finished doing exactly that a few minutes ago.
stjohnswarts 3y ago
We think we are the apex species but at some point we'll meet a fungi or bacteria strain that's way more apex than we are.
- snapcaster 3y ago
  I don't know about that, it seems like many have tried and humans beat all of them

permo-w 3y ago

this is the crux of the matter. as a species we’re so careless that if this is a warning or revenge for something, we don’t know what because there are too many options to choose from. this whole thread is an illustration of that. "could it be noise pollution?". "has an influential orca been hit by a rudder?”. "perhaps it's overfishing?", etc. even if it’s none of those things, and this is just a fad, it’s a sorry state of affairs

dfc 3y ago

What other animals excel at interspecies communication?

George83728 3y ago
Birds I bet. Parrots can kind of, sort of, talk to humans. And besides that, I bet many species of birds can effectively communicate with others. There are dozens of species of crow, I bet many if not all of them can understand at least some of what the others are saying.