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Why is it so unreasonable to think that immigrants from another country would have conflicting loyalties in a situation of total war between those two countries

Why is it so unreasonable to think that immigrants from another country would have conflicting loyalties in a situation of total war between those two countries? That seems pretty human and normal. And in an emergency your rights as a citizen can be curtailed accordingly right? Weren't we all in favor of that during the pandemic? I do agree that it wasn't a nice thing to do of course.

ok_dad 3y ago
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FpUser 3y ago
In my opinion your way of thinking is an abomination.
- alienicecream 3y ago
  I think that's just a way to avoid the question and to try and get others to avoid it as well.
  - FpUser 3y ago
    There is no question here. And there is no avoidance. If you are worried about spies go and catch them. That is what your 3 letter agencies are paid for. And they're paid a lot. Your amounts to - x percent of people commits crime, blacks commit even more so lets open concentration camps before they do any damage. As already said it is totally disgusting.
SamoyedFurFluff 3y ago
Yes it is unreasonable. Japanese people aren’t a disease that kills the old and the vulnerable, and comparing them to a disease is extremely inappropriate.
- alienicecream 3y ago
  It was a war, a spy could do significant damage. And I wasn't comparing them to a disease, the salient fact is the state of emergency, and we all agree that rights can be curtailed during a state of emergency right?
  - bitxbitxbitcoin 3y ago
    Which rights specifically?
    - sigzero 3y ago
      "History shows that curtailment of civil liberties—including the right to free speech, the right to a fair trial, and the right to equal protection under the law—has often followed national crises, particularly the outbreak of war." Freedom of the Press is often curtailed as well. If Martial Law is declared watch out. It usurps just about everything.
mc32 3y ago
Indeed, some of the suspicion regarding loyalties might have been planted during the Sino-Japanese war when "Issei" Japanese-Americans identified with nascent Imperial Japan: https://www.jstor.org/stable/25591553 https://www.jstor.org/stable/25591553 Additionally, today, we have agencies who consider Americans enemies of the state, just not in broad strokes, though we do see some semblance when people try to paint certain segments of today's America as being unpatriotic or "divisive" in broad strokes.
steve76 3y ago
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ok_dad 3y ago

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FpUser 3y ago

In my opinion your way of thinking is an abomination.

alienicecream 3y ago
I think that's just a way to avoid the question and to try and get others to avoid it as well.
- FpUser 3y ago
  There is no question here. And there is no avoidance. If you are worried about spies go and catch them. That is what your 3 letter agencies are paid for. And they're paid a lot. Your amounts to - x percent of people commits crime, blacks commit even more so lets open concentration camps before they do any damage. As already said it is totally disgusting.

SamoyedFurFluff 3y ago

Yes it is unreasonable. Japanese people aren’t a disease that kills the old and the vulnerable, and comparing them to a disease is extremely inappropriate.

alienicecream 3y ago
It was a war, a spy could do significant damage. And I wasn't comparing them to a disease, the salient fact is the state of emergency, and we all agree that rights can be curtailed during a state of emergency right?
- bitxbitxbitcoin 3y ago
  Which rights specifically?
  - sigzero 3y ago
    "History shows that curtailment of civil liberties—including the right to free speech, the right to a fair trial, and the right to equal protection under the law—has often followed national crises, particularly the outbreak of war." Freedom of the Press is often curtailed as well. If Martial Law is declared watch out. It usurps just about everything.

mc32 3y ago

Indeed, some of the suspicion regarding loyalties might have been planted during the Sino-Japanese war when "Issei" Japanese-Americans identified with nascent Imperial Japan: https://www.jstor.org/stable/25591553 https://www.jstor.org/stable/25591553 Additionally, today, we have agencies who consider Americans enemies of the state, just not in broad strokes, though we do see some semblance when people try to paint certain segments of today's America as being unpatriotic or "divisive" in broad strokes.

steve76 3y ago

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