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My gut feeling is to agree with you - abolish tipping. But I can see another side. When you run a service business, you should be overstaffed sometimes in orde
by euroderf 3y ago
My gut feeling is to agree with you - abolish tipping.
But I can see another side. When you run a service business, you should be overstaffed sometimes in order to be ready for busier periods. During those slow periods, there's not enough to keep staff busy and neither is there much revenue coming in. But during busy periods, tips raise staff compensation to match staff effort expended.
So maybe institutionalize the tips? Just add them to the bill? Or... here's a radical idea... just incorporate them into prices AND then ban tipping ? Just make sure they actually go to staff, or else the owner spends a few nights in jail.
- ttfkam 3y ago> Or... here's a radical idea... Your radical idea is to restate what I just said?
- euroderf 3y ago> Make the employers—ALL EMPLOYERS—pay their workers a full wage Not in my version. > After all, we already do it for "parties of six or more." Just reduce that number to one, raise the prices 15% in those sectors, and pay for the damn labor. You forgot the part where it has to guaranteed go to the workers. There have been big lawsuits about just this issue.
- ttfkam 3y agoI did not forget that. Our tax code and wage laws have tiers for tip wage workers and non-tip wage workers. It was presumed that if you remove that carve out by abolishing tips, the part you mention would follow. As for wage theft by employers, that is indeed a major issue already for both tip and non-tip workers. Why would anyone assume that problem would go away regardless of the existence of tipping? I'm all for punishing wage theft aggressively, though that is a separate issue entirely.
- euroderf 3y agoI wouldn't assume that wage theft would go away. It's just that the issue is a lot more severe when the base pay is sub-minimum.