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The author seems to believe these people have valid beliefs which deserve media coverage, has the opportunity to give their believes said coverage, but instead

The author seems to believe these people have valid beliefs which deserve media coverage, has the opportunity to give their believes said coverage, but instead spends most of the article complaining about how unfairly they've been suppressed. This is setting off my kook alarm.

mistermann 3y ago
You have to admit though, it would be quite funny if what they say is actually true, especially if climate change really is as bad as some of the estimates suggest.
vaylian 3y ago
The article is very meta. Degrowth is definitely not a topic that is covered well in the press, but it is most likely a relevant part of solving climate change. However, communicating degrowth is hard and quickly leads to people accusing one of trying to forbid all the nice things in their life (which is not true). Degrowth is fundamentally about having less, but people will get very defensive very quickly, when you suggest it. But the truth is: We are already using too many resources that the earth system can't replenish: https://www.overshootday.org/ https://www.overshootday.org/ The question is not if we will practise degrowth, but when. The longer we wait, the harder the change will be and the fewer option we will have to make the changes on our own terms.
- falcolas 3y ago
  If degrowth happens, it’s going to happen through the usual means: prices will rise to the point where most folks are spending their entire income just meeting their basic needs. Ironically it’s already happening, just to serve corporate ends, not long term survival.
  - candiodari 3y ago
    2 remarks: 1) malthusianism 2) the global average income is ~$10000 per year (median is $3000). Pre-tax. Stopping growth effectively means switching people to this wage. I understand pretty well why "not today" is the answer ...

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The author seems to believe these people have valid beliefs which deserve media coverage, has the opportunity to give their believes said coverage, but instead

by George83728 3y ago

mistermann 3y ago
You have to admit though, it would be quite funny if what they say is actually true, especially if climate change really is as bad as some of the estimates suggest.
vaylian 3y ago
The article is very meta. Degrowth is definitely not a topic that is covered well in the press, but it is most likely a relevant part of solving climate change. However, communicating degrowth is hard and quickly leads to people accusing one of trying to forbid all the nice things in their life (which is not true). Degrowth is fundamentally about having less, but people will get very defensive very quickly, when you suggest it. But the truth is: We are already using too many resources that the earth system can't replenish: https://www.overshootday.org/ https://www.overshootday.org/ The question is not if we will practise degrowth, but when. The longer we wait, the harder the change will be and the fewer option we will have to make the changes on our own terms.
- falcolas 3y ago
  If degrowth happens, it’s going to happen through the usual means: prices will rise to the point where most folks are spending their entire income just meeting their basic needs. Ironically it’s already happening, just to serve corporate ends, not long term survival.
  - candiodari 3y ago
    2 remarks: 1) malthusianism 2) the global average income is ~$10000 per year (median is $3000). Pre-tax. Stopping growth effectively means switching people to this wage. I understand pretty well why "not today" is the answer ...