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I think/hope most people agree the internment of western Japanese people was abhorrent. Hypothetically, how many instances of sabotage/war-like acts by Japanes
by oh_sigh 3y ago
I think/hope most people agree the internment of western Japanese people was abhorrent.
Hypothetically, how many instances of sabotage/war-like acts by Japanese Americans would have to happen before the internments would be justified?
I also wonder how much of a impact the Niihau incident had on the decision to do internments. Literally the first Japanese-Americans that had an opportunity helped a pearl harbor attacker terrorize Niihau.
- BaseballPhysics 3y ago[flagged]
- oh_sigh 3y agoWhy didn't fascism take over after WWII, and the US, say, continue to intern western Japanese people?
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- BaseballPhysics 3y agoBecause the western world discovered the horrors of the Nazi extermination camps--horrors truly beyond anything they could have possibly imagined--and realized that using racism and xenophobia to justify the systematic imprisonment, abuse, and deprivation of a minority might maybe be a bad idea (and certainly a bad look)?
- stuckinhell 3y agoIt's not hypothetical, we've seen in covid, people are more than okay with keeping the majority(not even minorities) population under near house arrest. If they were fearful for their lives like in WW2 (aka worse than covid), you can easily see why internment camps weren't opposed by the general population.
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- BaseballPhysics 3y ago[flagged]
- stuckinhell 3y ago[flagged]
- BaseballPhysics 3y agoIf you can't see the difference between public health measures meant to curb an infectious disease crisis and race-based concentration camps that resulted in horrifying deprivation and death, you're clearly too ignorant of the history of those issues, and/or too ideologically indoctrinated, to have a reasonable conversation on this topic. Take care and have a good day!
- stuckinhell 3y agoApparently it's you who can't have a reasonable conversation. My comment wasn't the one flagged.
- SamoyedFurFluff 3y agoI want to inform you plainly: the idea that citizens of a country are so broadly more loyal to a different country their parents or grandparents or great-grandparents came from, that you should (without trial) steal their property, destroy their pets, and forcibly move them into a space with minimal healthcare, shelter, and food, is a perception that can only exist in the framework of bigotry and xenophobia. There is a wide swath of the population that would consider this viewpoint unreasonable and uncivilized.
- oh_sigh 3y agoSo you would be okay with internments, if a judge said it was okay?
- SamoyedFurFluff 3y agoPutting individual people through a trial that they actually committed an act of treason or terrorism at least gives them the rights afforded to them in a court, such as legal representation, the right to hear their charges, the right to appeal decisions, etc. (I also have issues with the actual application of the courts these days, with the pressure of guilty pleas and the like, but theoretically it is better than violating the rights of over 100k people due to being related to someone from Japan without any evidence that those individuals have committed any wrongdoing.)
- ok_dad 3y agoThe Supreme Court did say it was okay, but it was not.
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