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Glassdoor is one good candidate for "disruption". Anyone knows a competing alternative for a global workplace review website?

scrame 3y ago
Blind, but I can't imagine why anyone would trust a site that requires you to register with your work email.
- capableweb 3y ago
  Blind is nothing like Glassdoor, two very different platforms which seemingly two very different goals.
  - cornercasechase 3y ago
    Really? Because Blind seems like a much better Glassdoor if your goal is to understand what it’s actually like inside a company.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      Blind requires you to have a company email in order to even participate, meaning if you left the company, you no longer can sign up for Blind. So if you want to review a company, how would you? Blind also targets having communities for people inside companies to talk, and facilitating discussion. Glassdoor is mainly about reviewing companies.
      - cornercasechase 3y ago
        If I want to know if a company is toxic, Blind is a lot more useful than Glassdoor. People will speak the truth while they’re at the company.
        pmoriarty 3y ago
        Will they? If I had something very negative to say I'd fear getting fired while working at the company, but will have no such fear after I leave. A site that requires your company email before you can post a negative review sounds like a honeypot.
        withinboredom 3y ago
        A manager on my old company's blind (they never revalidate your email apparently) just posted the other day how the CEO asked the managers 'who in their team would you not hire today'. They took that list and fired all of them. I imagine HR would absolutely love to take that down.
      - cornfutes 3y ago
        > So if you want to review a company, how would you? So have up to a year after you leave the company I believe.
    - devnullbrain 3y ago
      Only a small number of very large companies.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  It's a bit of a catch-22: why would they believe you're actually an employee of a company if you don't have a work email address for that company?
  - hansel_der 3y ago
    on the other hand i know countless subcontractors/vendors that have dozens of work email addresses from different companies and are not really employees of any of them. so yea, emails are not a trusworthy source of anything, but filtering singups based on addresses is very common.
capableweb 3y ago
Let's brainstorm some solutions to some of the problems that would arise with another glassdoor clone: - How do you verify that the reviews are actually from current/former employees? - Can the data be open for the public to verify while protecting the people leaving reviews? - How could the service get funding? Donation model? - How would you overcome the initial issues with trust? - How do you prevent companies from manipulating the scores/reviews? - How do you handle legal challenges if you're based on something like a donation model? Companies would surely sue you at one point or another if they cannot take down reviews themselves
- pzo 3y ago
  >- How do you verify that the reviews are actually from current/former employees? People who write review would have to upload recent pay slip or after when committing review provide their email at employee to receive some passcode active within 2 months >- Can the data be open for the public to verify while protecting the people leaving reviews? Verification explained above. Token to employee at employer domain email would be anonymous. Reviews would be randomly visible within 1-8 weeks after submission. >- How could the service get funding? Donation model? Jobs advertisement ads and website getting commission if someone got hired from advertised jobs like most agency get. Hired person would get small bonus for confirming got accepted. >- How would you overcome the initial issues with trust? Just reliable reviews that got verified with payslip and domain email and maybe even passport just to make sure employer doesn't create dozens of fake payslips and domain emails. >- How do you prevent companies from manipulating the scores/reviews? See above >- How do you handle legal challenges if you're based on something like a donation model? Companies would surely sue you at one point or another if they cannot take down reviews themselves Just create account in some law friendly country. Don't store any user data such as passport, payslip, user employee emails etc - after verifying just delete those
  - foota 3y ago
    > People who write review would have to upload recent pay slip or after when committing review provide their email at employee to receive some passcode active within 2 months The employer controls their email domain.
blitzar 3y ago
Glassdoor (and similar) is a waste of time, reviews are all heavily biased at best or outright paid for lies. Amazon reviews are barely useful - that reviews of workplaces, the average tenure of which is 4.1 years can be any better is just a pipedream.
janalsncm 3y ago
Before trying to disrupt any product, it would be good to identify the failures of competitors, determine whether they’re actually “failures” (i.e. will people pay for an improvement) and make your solutions to those issues part of your core identity. To say Glassdoor is a good candidate for disruption is not the same thing as saying they have some problems. Every product has some problems.
- 2devnull 3y ago
  Meetup is an example. There are many.
- twelve40 3y ago
  here is an actual failure: when i'm looking at say Meta salaries, i still see no indicator or filter of how recent this data is. Are the numbers that they are showing an average of all reports starting from 2007? which may have like doubled since then, 15 years ago? This renders the salary data completely useless, you can't do apples-to-apples with a more recent company like OpenAI that doesn't have 15 years worth of old useless numbers averaged into it. It could be solved by adding some kind of a pretty basic recency filter, but in 15 years of their existence they haven't bothered.
  - hansel_der 3y ago
    > Are the numbers that they are showing an average of all reports starting from 2007 tbf it would probably suffice to have that information somewhere
capkutay 3y ago
Why is it a good candidate to disrupt? 1 year in, the “disruptor” would run into the exact same problems if they reach any meaningful scale or adoption. Asking happy team members to review your company is no different than apps asking frequent users to review on the App Store.
bradleyjg 3y ago
The business model is garbage. The only possible source of revenue is the very companies that are being reviewed. Either you offer some benefit to those companies, in which case you are untrustworthy, or you don’t, in which case you are broke. See, also, Yelp & TripAdvisor.

scrame 3y ago

Blind, but I can't imagine why anyone would trust a site that requires you to register with your work email.

capableweb 3y ago
Blind is nothing like Glassdoor, two very different platforms which seemingly two very different goals.
- cornercasechase 3y ago
  Really? Because Blind seems like a much better Glassdoor if your goal is to understand what it’s actually like inside a company.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    Blind requires you to have a company email in order to even participate, meaning if you left the company, you no longer can sign up for Blind. So if you want to review a company, how would you? Blind also targets having communities for people inside companies to talk, and facilitating discussion. Glassdoor is mainly about reviewing companies.
    - cornercasechase 3y ago
      If I want to know if a company is toxic, Blind is a lot more useful than Glassdoor. People will speak the truth while they’re at the company.
      - pmoriarty 3y ago
        Will they? If I had something very negative to say I'd fear getting fired while working at the company, but will have no such fear after I leave. A site that requires your company email before you can post a negative review sounds like a honeypot.
        withinboredom 3y ago
        A manager on my old company's blind (they never revalidate your email apparently) just posted the other day how the CEO asked the managers 'who in their team would you not hire today'. They took that list and fired all of them. I imagine HR would absolutely love to take that down.
    - cornfutes 3y ago
      > So if you want to review a company, how would you? So have up to a year after you leave the company I believe.
  - devnullbrain 3y ago
    Only a small number of very large companies.
robertlagrant 3y ago
It's a bit of a catch-22: why would they believe you're actually an employee of a company if you don't have a work email address for that company?
- hansel_der 3y ago
  on the other hand i know countless subcontractors/vendors that have dozens of work email addresses from different companies and are not really employees of any of them. so yea, emails are not a trusworthy source of anything, but filtering singups based on addresses is very common.

capableweb 3y ago

Let's brainstorm some solutions to some of the problems that would arise with another glassdoor clone: - How do you verify that the reviews are actually from current/former employees? - Can the data be open for the public to verify while protecting the people leaving reviews? - How could the service get funding? Donation model? - How would you overcome the initial issues with trust? - How do you prevent companies from manipulating the scores/reviews? - How do you handle legal challenges if you're based on something like a donation model? Companies would surely sue you at one point or another if they cannot take down reviews themselves

pzo 3y ago
>- How do you verify that the reviews are actually from current/former employees? People who write review would have to upload recent pay slip or after when committing review provide their email at employee to receive some passcode active within 2 months >- Can the data be open for the public to verify while protecting the people leaving reviews? Verification explained above. Token to employee at employer domain email would be anonymous. Reviews would be randomly visible within 1-8 weeks after submission. >- How could the service get funding? Donation model? Jobs advertisement ads and website getting commission if someone got hired from advertised jobs like most agency get. Hired person would get small bonus for confirming got accepted. >- How would you overcome the initial issues with trust? Just reliable reviews that got verified with payslip and domain email and maybe even passport just to make sure employer doesn't create dozens of fake payslips and domain emails. >- How do you prevent companies from manipulating the scores/reviews? See above >- How do you handle legal challenges if you're based on something like a donation model? Companies would surely sue you at one point or another if they cannot take down reviews themselves Just create account in some law friendly country. Don't store any user data such as passport, payslip, user employee emails etc - after verifying just delete those
- foota 3y ago
  > People who write review would have to upload recent pay slip or after when committing review provide their email at employee to receive some passcode active within 2 months The employer controls their email domain.

blitzar 3y ago

Glassdoor (and similar) is a waste of time, reviews are all heavily biased at best or outright paid for lies. Amazon reviews are barely useful - that reviews of workplaces, the average tenure of which is 4.1 years can be any better is just a pipedream.

janalsncm 3y ago

Before trying to disrupt any product, it would be good to identify the failures of competitors, determine whether they’re actually “failures” (i.e. will people pay for an improvement) and make your solutions to those issues part of your core identity. To say Glassdoor is a good candidate for disruption is not the same thing as saying they have some problems. Every product has some problems.

2devnull 3y ago
Meetup is an example. There are many.
twelve40 3y ago
here is an actual failure: when i'm looking at say Meta salaries, i still see no indicator or filter of how recent this data is. Are the numbers that they are showing an average of all reports starting from 2007? which may have like doubled since then, 15 years ago? This renders the salary data completely useless, you can't do apples-to-apples with a more recent company like OpenAI that doesn't have 15 years worth of old useless numbers averaged into it. It could be solved by adding some kind of a pretty basic recency filter, but in 15 years of their existence they haven't bothered.
- hansel_der 3y ago
  > Are the numbers that they are showing an average of all reports starting from 2007 tbf it would probably suffice to have that information somewhere

capkutay 3y ago

Why is it a good candidate to disrupt? 1 year in, the “disruptor” would run into the exact same problems if they reach any meaningful scale or adoption. Asking happy team members to review your company is no different than apps asking frequent users to review on the App Store.

bradleyjg 3y ago

The business model is garbage. The only possible source of revenue is the very companies that are being reviewed. Either you offer some benefit to those companies, in which case you are untrustworthy, or you don’t, in which case you are broke. See, also, Yelp & TripAdvisor.