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You just plug the cable into the car; the system knows the car's VIN and charges the card on file. There is no smartphone required. It's a nice, seamless syst

You just plug the cable into the car; the system knows the car's VIN and charges the card on file. There is no smartphone required. It's a nice, seamless system compared to the competition.

vel0city 3y ago
How do you manage the card on file? Who is hosting the file?
- jgoldshlag 3y ago
  Right now, it is your Tesla account. I assume the Ford Pay stuff in there explains how other manufacturers will do it
  - vel0city 3y ago
    And how do you manage your Tesla account? Through an app? My point is, I still need some app. I can't just go up to a Tesla charger and choose to pay with one credit card or the other without involving an app.
    - ChrisClark 3y ago
      Visit a library and set it up on their website if you absolutely have no computer or internet access? In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app. The other charging networks are a mess, I have several apps installed for them.
      - vel0city 3y ago
        > In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app You literally have to access some app to use it. Like, no matter what, you have to use an app whether that be on your phone or on a website. It is impossible to walk up to a Tesla charger and start charging with just a credit card. Meanwhile I've had several CCS charging sessions which were just tap a credit card or insert a chipped card and it starts charging, no app or website needed at all. So saying Tesla doesn't require an app is a lie, and saying it's the only one like it is also a lie. Two complete fabrications in one, nice work! Even if one argues plug and charge doesn't need an app (even though it did ahead of time to configure it), Tesla isn't the only one with that. I've had plug and charge work at most CCS charging sessions I've done. Tesla isn't the only one.
- electrondood 3y ago
  As with any of the charging networks, you create an account and they host the card data.

You just plug the cable into the car; the system knows the car's VIN and charges the card on file. There is no smartphone required. It's a nice, seamless system compared to the competition.

vel0city 3y ago

How do you manage the card on file? Who is hosting the file?

jgoldshlag 3y ago
Right now, it is your Tesla account. I assume the Ford Pay stuff in there explains how other manufacturers will do it
- vel0city 3y ago
  And how do you manage your Tesla account? Through an app? My point is, I still need some app. I can't just go up to a Tesla charger and choose to pay with one credit card or the other without involving an app.
  - ChrisClark 3y ago
    Visit a library and set it up on their website if you absolutely have no computer or internet access? In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app. The other charging networks are a mess, I have several apps installed for them.
    - vel0city 3y ago
      > In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app You literally have to access some app to use it. Like, no matter what, you have to use an app whether that be on your phone or on a website. It is impossible to walk up to a Tesla charger and start charging with just a credit card. Meanwhile I've had several CCS charging sessions which were just tap a credit card or insert a chipped card and it starts charging, no app or website needed at all. So saying Tesla doesn't require an app is a lie, and saying it's the only one like it is also a lie. Two complete fabrications in one, nice work! Even if one argues plug and charge doesn't need an app (even though it did ahead of time to configure it), Tesla isn't the only one with that. I've had plug and charge work at most CCS charging sessions I've done. Tesla isn't the only one.
electrondood 3y ago
As with any of the charging networks, you create an account and they host the card data.