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There was a thread a while ago commenting that 15% of cellphone users in the US don't use a smartphone. Another 3% don't have a cellphone at all. Probably save

There was a thread a while ago commenting that 15% of cellphone users in the US don't use a smartphone. Another 3% don't have a cellphone at all. Probably save to assume also that a larger then 0% part of the smartphone population also don't have mobile data plans. Which begs the question; do Tesla superchargers have the ability of using only a credit card or cash? Is there any plan to?

samcheng 3y ago
You just plug the cable into the car; the system knows the car's VIN and charges the card on file. There is no smartphone required. It's a nice, seamless system compared to the competition.
- vel0city 3y ago
  How do you manage the card on file? Who is hosting the file?
  - jgoldshlag 3y ago
    Right now, it is your Tesla account. I assume the Ford Pay stuff in there explains how other manufacturers will do it
    - vel0city 3y ago
      And how do you manage your Tesla account? Through an app? My point is, I still need some app. I can't just go up to a Tesla charger and choose to pay with one credit card or the other without involving an app.
      - ChrisClark 3y ago
        Visit a library and set it up on their website if you absolutely have no computer or internet access? In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app. The other charging networks are a mess, I have several apps installed for them.
        vel0city 3y ago
        > In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app You literally have to access some app to use it. Like, no matter what, you have to use an app whether that be on your phone or on a website. It is impossible to walk up to a Tesla charger and start charging with just a credit card. Meanwhile I've had several CCS charging sessions which were just tap a credit card or insert a chipped card and it starts charging, no app or website needed at all. So saying Tesla doesn't require an app is a lie, and saying it's the only one like it is also a lie. Two complete fabrications in one, nice work! Even if one argues plug and charge doesn't need an app (even though it did ahead of time to configure it), Tesla isn't the only one with that. I've had plug and charge work at most CCS charging sessions I've done. Tesla isn't the only one.
  - electrondood 3y ago
    As with any of the charging networks, you create an account and they host the card data.
wilg 3y ago
No and no. But they are opening them to non-Tesla cars by providing an adapter. For this, you pay with your credit card via a smartphone app.
chrisco255 3y ago
Seems like they could easily offer some kind of gift card option.
speedgoose 3y ago
The population of electric cars drivers without a smartphone must be low enough to ignore them.

samcheng 3y ago

You just plug the cable into the car; the system knows the car's VIN and charges the card on file. There is no smartphone required. It's a nice, seamless system compared to the competition.

vel0city 3y ago
How do you manage the card on file? Who is hosting the file?
- jgoldshlag 3y ago
  Right now, it is your Tesla account. I assume the Ford Pay stuff in there explains how other manufacturers will do it
  - vel0city 3y ago
    And how do you manage your Tesla account? Through an app? My point is, I still need some app. I can't just go up to a Tesla charger and choose to pay with one credit card or the other without involving an app.
    - ChrisClark 3y ago
      Visit a library and set it up on their website if you absolutely have no computer or internet access? In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app. The other charging networks are a mess, I have several apps installed for them.
      - vel0city 3y ago
        > In this case, the Tesla charging network is the only one that allows use without a cell phone app You literally have to access some app to use it. Like, no matter what, you have to use an app whether that be on your phone or on a website. It is impossible to walk up to a Tesla charger and start charging with just a credit card. Meanwhile I've had several CCS charging sessions which were just tap a credit card or insert a chipped card and it starts charging, no app or website needed at all. So saying Tesla doesn't require an app is a lie, and saying it's the only one like it is also a lie. Two complete fabrications in one, nice work! Even if one argues plug and charge doesn't need an app (even though it did ahead of time to configure it), Tesla isn't the only one with that. I've had plug and charge work at most CCS charging sessions I've done. Tesla isn't the only one.
- electrondood 3y ago
  As with any of the charging networks, you create an account and they host the card data.

wilg 3y ago

No and no. But they are opening them to non-Tesla cars by providing an adapter. For this, you pay with your credit card via a smartphone app.

chrisco255 3y ago

Seems like they could easily offer some kind of gift card option.

speedgoose 3y ago

The population of electric cars drivers without a smartphone must be low enough to ignore them.