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of which how many were electric?
by option 3y ago
of which how many were electric?
- croes 3y agoDoes it matter to BMW?
- oblio 3y agoBMW is fine. They already have a purely EV platform and are selling something like 10 BEV models...
- deadmutex 3y agoI think the point is that electric cars the digital cameras of today. Consumers are shifting to EVs faster than expected, and it is catching some car makers (e.g. Toyota) flat footed.
- Doctor_Fegg 3y ago> I think the point is that electric cars the digital cameras of today. Enjoyed a brief heyday but rapidly faded as people moved on to a more convenient device?
- hnav 3y agoprecisely, with waymo partnering with uber you know that personal car ownership with all the headaches that entails is drawing to a close
- ericjmorey 3y agoIf everyone wants to rent the vehicle at the same time? How is renting more convenient than ownership of an autonomous vehicle?
- hnav 3y agoit's not, it's more efficient and thus cheaper
- fragmede 3y agoEveryone carries one with them all the time now because the technology became miniaturized while quality shot way up? Man, I'd love for George Jetson's briefcase car to be a reality!
- polar8 3y agoWho sold the most horses in 1908?
- hindsightbias 3y ago“Tesla not only beat all US luxury automakers on car sales for 2022 as a whole, but also beat them by a ridiculous margin. BMW was the former champ, and while its sales dropped by over 5% year over year, Tesla's sales grew by more than a whopping 40%.” https://insideevs.com/news/652873/tesla-tops-bmw-us-luxury-car-sales-2022/ https://insideevs.com/news/652873/tesla-tops-bmw-us-luxury-c... If you’re pummeling Toyota with a luxy model, the rest are just fluff.
- Retric 3y agoTesla isn’t a luxury brand. EV batteries introduce a price premium but the Model 3 is targeting Hyundai buyers not BMW buyers. Just look at the Ionic 5 price point.
- hindsightbias 3y agoThe industry disagrees with you https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42938734/tesla-best-selling-luxury-brand-2022/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42938734/tesla-best-selli... https://www.kbb.com/car-news/tesla-is-americas-best-selling-luxury-automaker/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/tesla-is-americas-best-selling-... https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-y/ https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-y/ I don’t see Hyundais in Palo Alto. I see Teslas. Perhaps you consider valley middle class.
- Retric 3y agoThere’s strong disagreement around that the model S and X might qualify as luxury cars but are missing many common characteristics like the degree of sound isolation. Some people talk about pricing, but you can spend 6 figures on a ford 150 which isn’t a Luxury brand. https://carbuzz.com/news/lucid-delays-production-says-tesla-isnt-a-luxury-brand https://carbuzz.com/news/lucid-delays-production-says-tesla-...
- alfor 3y agoit will as gas car as time goes on. BMW could be okay for a while with his customers that are looking for that vintage gas smell, sound and feel.
- Xixi 3y agoFigures that I have for Q1 2023 for BMW Group (which includes Mini) are: 588,138 total, including 64,647 BEV. So that's 11% BEV. IN Q1 2022, figures were: 596,907 total, including about 25,940 BEV. So it was 4.3% BEV. Going from 4.3% BEV to 11% BEV may not sound so impressive, but little by little non Tesla BEVs are adding up, and I think many car makers are investing very seriously into it. Historically the car market has not been one of monopoly, I don't think it's going to change with Tesla. Market shares will change, some car makers will fail to adapt, but I don't think German carmakers are the ones that will suffer the most. Japanese carmakers I have more doubt: they are moving very slowly, but on the other hand Japan knows how to manufacture batteries at scale (Panasonic), so once Toyota decides to move seriously into BEV, they might be able to move very fast. I'm a lot more worried about my own country carmakers (Renault and Peugeot). Not only they move slowly and erratically, they are going to compete head on, on price, with Chinese carmakers...