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It's not wideley known that part of the problem is Siemens with their abysmal quality of trains, for instance the Desiro models. I found an older article about

It's not wideley known that part of the problem is Siemens with their abysmal quality of trains, for instance the Desiro models. I found an older article about this in connection with the Belgian rail https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2014/08/14/desiro_trains_leavemuchtobedesired-1-2059947/ https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2014/08/14/desiro_trains_leavem... The situation hasn't improved, though. Recently a local provider of train services has acquired a new fleet of Desiro and Mireo that were broken right out of the factory. The quality was so bad that Siemens was forced to send people to the train provider for weeks to fix the most urgent problems. Also the introduction of the "Deutschlandtakt" was delayed not for years but for decades, so won't happen in my lifetime: https://www-tagesschau-de.translate.goog/wirtschaft/unternehmen/bahn-deutschlandtakt-101.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-tagesschau-de.translate.goog/wirtschaft/unterneh...

kioleanu 3y ago
I don't understand Siemens as a company, to be honest. We wanted to buy an expensive piece of software from them and they delivered it with all essential libraries at versions from 2014. We asked them to update the libraries, they spent a few weeks before replying and then said it's not possible to be done. We do such updates on a weekly basis for our internal software, here incidentally on the exact same libraries, so the response flabbergasts me. They preferred to lose hundreds of thousands of euro rather than spend a few weeks (I'm stretching it) doing the updates.
- 1238127386 3y ago
  Having worked for Siemens in the past, I can say I don't understand how they are still in business. Riduculous ration of managers to workers, no real processes - it was insane. Of course that was just one small part of a large company. However, the management issue seems to be endemic there.

kioleanu 3y ago

I don't understand Siemens as a company, to be honest. We wanted to buy an expensive piece of software from them and they delivered it with all essential libraries at versions from 2014. We asked them to update the libraries, they spent a few weeks before replying and then said it's not possible to be done. We do such updates on a weekly basis for our internal software, here incidentally on the exact same libraries, so the response flabbergasts me. They preferred to lose hundreds of thousands of euro rather than spend a few weeks (I'm stretching it) doing the updates.

1238127386 3y ago
Having worked for Siemens in the past, I can say I don't understand how they are still in business. Riduculous ration of managers to workers, no real processes - it was insane. Of course that was just one small part of a large company. However, the management issue seems to be endemic there.