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I think the objection is equating "intelligent" with "spiritual being". Those are not necessarily coincident.
by Tagbert 3y ago
I think the objection is equating "intelligent" with "spiritual being". Those are not necessarily coincident.
- mastazi 3y agoYes, true, my bad. I have a history of not understanding what the word "spiritual" means (I think I've read every possible explanation over the years, I still don't get it), so I usually tend to find a proxy for it when I'm reasoning about something. In this case I was using "intelligent" as my proxy.
- Mistletoe 3y agoAren’t they, though? I’ll know AI is intelligent when it worries about being turned off.
- ben_w 3y agoHow will we know if it is actually worrying, or if it's just regurgitating our own worries like a VHS tape of the famous Bladerunner or Hamlet soliloquies? When it can provide its own answer, it will have already been smart for a long time.
- Mistletoe 3y agoHow do we know a person is not regurgitating worries?
- ben_w 3y agoAssumptions, and often incorrect ones at that. I keep finding the Münchhausen Trilemma popping up whenever the possibilities of AI consciousness are discussed, more specifically I keep seeing circular and dogmatic arguments against it. I only see "cogito ergo sum" or "there is a thought now" when I myself bring up those quotes. Having an A-level in philosophy at mere grade E, I'm almost certainly less qualified than ChatGPT to discuss it, of course…
- analog31 3y agoIndeed, I think I'm an intelligent person, but I also don't think I'm spiritual in any way that I'm aware of. And I can play the flute.
- etothepii 3y agoI'm a committed atheist but find it hard to think of a better word than spiritual to describe the wonder I have about the universe. I find the scientific explanations more beautiful than the religious but that doesn't make them less spiritual. I doubt the decision to learn to play the flute was based in logic.