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> I've yet to meet a Chinese or Russian colleague who thinks it would be better if China or Russia lmao the ones who live in america? yeah, of course. they d

> I've yet to meet a Chinese or Russian colleague who thinks it would be better if China or Russia lmao the ones who live in america? yeah, of course. they don't want to get deported. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee <-- taiwanese lolol

illumin8 3y ago
Wen Ho Lee was a PRC spy and was caught exfiltrating secrets. Hardly a reasonable example of unjust persecution. Are you serious? No US person seriously believes we will deport a Chinese national on a legitimate visa for their political views. Can you point to a single example of this happening?
- runarberg 3y ago
  Isn’t that exactly what happened to Emma Goldman and Charles Chaplin?
  - illumin8 3y ago
    Were they Chinese nationals?
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    - inconceivable 3y ago
      you know, it's funny, the only person caught up by the china initiative was a white guy too.
    - runarberg 3y ago
      There are famous cases of USA deporting a Polish-Lithuanian Jew and a British Actor because of their political views. Is there a reason to believe they wouldn’t deport a Chinese national for the same reason? Particularly since “having been a member of the Communist party” (a requirement for any Chinese citizen seeking a job in the public sector) is a question they ask before issuing a green card.
- inconceivable 3y ago
  > Wen Ho Lee was a PRC spy and was caught exfiltrating secrets. then why wasn't he convicted of it? LOL why is he walking around free, and with a bunch of money he won from a civil suit filed against the government? who's incompetent here, the FBI, the DOJ, or the courts? how can we assure that every east asian accused of espionage is convicted? it's a shame you aren't a federal judge, then no spy would ever get away.

illumin8 3y ago

Wen Ho Lee was a PRC spy and was caught exfiltrating secrets. Hardly a reasonable example of unjust persecution. Are you serious? No US person seriously believes we will deport a Chinese national on a legitimate visa for their political views. Can you point to a single example of this happening?

runarberg 3y ago
Isn’t that exactly what happened to Emma Goldman and Charles Chaplin?
- illumin8 3y ago
  Were they Chinese nationals?
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  - inconceivable 3y ago
    you know, it's funny, the only person caught up by the china initiative was a white guy too.
  - runarberg 3y ago
    There are famous cases of USA deporting a Polish-Lithuanian Jew and a British Actor because of their political views. Is there a reason to believe they wouldn’t deport a Chinese national for the same reason? Particularly since “having been a member of the Communist party” (a requirement for any Chinese citizen seeking a job in the public sector) is a question they ask before issuing a green card.
inconceivable 3y ago
> Wen Ho Lee was a PRC spy and was caught exfiltrating secrets. then why wasn't he convicted of it? LOL why is he walking around free, and with a bunch of money he won from a civil suit filed against the government? who's incompetent here, the FBI, the DOJ, or the courts? how can we assure that every east asian accused of espionage is convicted? it's a shame you aren't a federal judge, then no spy would ever get away.