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Did you heard about americans in humvees running around ukraine-russian border and provoking russians, few years before the conflict ? How would your governmen
by myshpa 3y ago
Did you heard about americans in humvees running around ukraine-russian border and provoking russians, few years before the conflict ?
How would your government react to russians trying to establish military bases in mexico, on your border? Oh, we know ... we can look what you did to Cubans. Are they still in blockade?
I don't endorse what Russians are doing. But somebody was helping them to decide to attack. If it was successfull or not, we'll never know.
- anonuser123456 3y agoTo make your argument symmetric, we need to imagine Mexico inviting Russia after we 1) poison their President with polonium, 2) seize the Baja peninsula and 3) arm and support border incursions from Texas separatists and 4) have those separatists shoot down a civilian airliner. So kinda not the same.
- myshpa 3y agoYour country does immoral things, Russians do immoral things, Chinese too, every big "power" does. That's not the point. Point is, how would you react to the foreign powers on your border ? Would you go south or not?
- foo-bar-bat 3y ago[flagged]
- NAG3LT 3y agoPlease, stop repeating russian propaganda. They wanted to control and reconquer their former imperial colonies. Their claimed Casus Belli were just lame excuses, not actual reasons.
- myshpa 3y agoI don't have it from russians, I'm not pro-russia, far from it. But those concerns that US (maybe) wants war on european continent were pretty often repeated in all EU media then.
- cpursley 3y agoGod forbid we use a little empathy, nuance and historical perspective in our opinions. And I know I'm a bit out there, but perhaps the people in the disputed territories should get a vote?
- archagon 3y agoPerhaps the time to discuss this was before the 2014 invasion. I doubt Ukraine would acquiesce to it now.
- kibwen 3y agoRussia would be happy to put it to a vote, now that they've relocated over a million Ukrainians from the Donbas to "filtration camps". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_filtration_camps_for_Ukrainians https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_filtration_camps_for... God forbid we react to the utterly inhumane invasion of Ukraine with the disgust it deserves. Stop trying to make cover for Putin behind a veil of insincere civility.
- bombolo 3y agobut… What if they vote russia?
- _kbh_ 3y ago> And I know I'm a bit out there, but perhaps the people in the disputed territories should get a vote? You mean just like the vote in Crimea in 2014 right? With a gun pointed at their backs under the supervision of the military?. There’s no way that, any vote like that is in anyway shape or form fair and will result in any outcome other than what the people pointing the guns want.
- thx-2718 3y ago[flagged]
- thx-2718 3y agoIt's unfortunate that Nations can't agree to respect the borders they agreed upon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_border#History_since_1991 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_border#...
- RadixDLT 3y agoUS will react the same way they did to cuba .. the bigger problem is that Russia is a backwards country with caveman ideology modeled on the strong Mongolian empire who wants to oppress everybody around them because they have narcissistic tendencies
- darkerside 3y agoAre you implying that the US would react to that situation by annexing parts of Mexico and eventually declaring war on it?
- herewulf 3y agoThe US would never declare war on Mexico! Nor annex any part of it!
- darkerside 3y agoNot in 100 years