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Also a reminder that after the 1932 German presidential election [1], won by Paul von Hindenburg, 84 years old, with 53%, he appointed as chancellor one Adolf H

Also a reminder that after the 1932 German presidential election [1], won by Paul von Hindenburg, 84 years old, with 53%, he appointed as chancellor one Adolf Hitler in 1933 following the advice of Franz von Papen, the conservative chancellor who served in 1932 and who would have rather see the Nazi Party in power than the Communist Party (KPD) led by Ernst Thälmann. In 1934 Hitler dissolves the presidency and calls himself Führer und Reichskanzler. Ernst Thälmann will be executed under Hitler's orders in 1944, after 11 years of solitary confinement. That's how the Nazis torture (Hans Litten [2], the lawyer who stood against Hitler in the 1931 Eden Dance Palace trial, was also tortured for 5 years, 1932-38). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_German_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_German_presidential_elect... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Litten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Litten

pastacacioepepe 3y ago
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- ly3xqhl8g9 3y ago
  Right, but who's communism? Certainly not Stalin's. Perhaps Eugene V. Debs' [1]? Speaking of persons who were imprisoned and indirectly, but not really, killed for their anti-war stance. (Back in the USSA [2] tells an alternate history of USA as communistic after 1917, perhaps too reliant on the actual history and general intertextuality). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_in_the_USSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_in_the_USSA
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    For the entirety of the 20th century, ALL communism was conflated with Stalin's "Communism" for political purposes. Plenty of people advocating for socialism would have been executed in the USSR because to Stalin, "Communism" meant a Stalin based monarchy with a good propaganda arm.
    - HPsquared 3y ago
      It's like trying to create heaven on earth. It needs to be implemented by humans, so ends up not being very heavenly at all.
    - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
      Tito would like to speak with you
pastacacioepepe 3y ago
Of course capitalists prefer fascists, they will preserve the private property AND provide a subservient workforce. Communists on the other hand will seize their means of production. Fascism and capitalism are complementary, communism excludes both.

pastacacioepepe 3y ago

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ly3xqhl8g9 3y ago
Right, but who's communism? Certainly not Stalin's. Perhaps Eugene V. Debs' [1]? Speaking of persons who were imprisoned and indirectly, but not really, killed for their anti-war stance. (Back in the USSA [2] tells an alternate history of USA as communistic after 1917, perhaps too reliant on the actual history and general intertextuality). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_in_the_USSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_in_the_USSA
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  For the entirety of the 20th century, ALL communism was conflated with Stalin's "Communism" for political purposes. Plenty of people advocating for socialism would have been executed in the USSR because to Stalin, "Communism" meant a Stalin based monarchy with a good propaganda arm.
  - HPsquared 3y ago
    It's like trying to create heaven on earth. It needs to be implemented by humans, so ends up not being very heavenly at all.
  - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
    Tito would like to speak with you

pastacacioepepe 3y ago

Of course capitalists prefer fascists, they will preserve the private property AND provide a subservient workforce. Communists on the other hand will seize their means of production. Fascism and capitalism are complementary, communism excludes both.