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I am less concerned that Apple will exploit my data because they make plenty on the hardware; in the case of Android gear Google's whole point is exploit any da

by mikece 3y ago

I am less concerned that Apple will exploit my data because they make plenty on the hardware; in the case of Android gear Google's whole point is exploit any data they can for profit. I have few use cases for a tablet as it is (photography being the big one: Canon Camera Connect) so if Google makes it impossible to get/update that app I'll just switch platforms. (If not an iPad then perhaps a laptop but that's far more bulky to take on a photo shoot.)

Stiffly6471 3y ago
The part where you said:"I am less concerned that Apple will exploit my data because they make plenty on the hardware." feels like such a naive way to think about Apple. This is what Forbes had to say about it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/10/19/apples-ad-network-is-the-biggest-beneficiary-of-apples-new-marketing-rules-report/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/10/19/apples-...
- TylerE 3y ago
  Be vary vary vary wary. This dude (like most Forbes contributors) is a lifestyle CEO/"media consultant" just shilling his own bags.
  - yosito 3y ago
    Verily, various variants of vary are very varied.
malicka 3y ago
People switching from Android to iOS for privacy reasons seems myopic to me. Apple is, ultimately, a company. There is no such thing as them “making enough money.” If they can double-dip by both selling data and selling hardware, they will. It's not a matter of if, but when. De-Googled Android is objectively a more privacy-friendly option than iOS.
- CharlesW 3y ago
  > People switching from Android to iOS for privacy reasons seems myopic to me. Apple is, ultimately, a company. They're not the same. Google generates ~80% of its revenue from an ads product built on user data. Apple has an ad product which generates ~5% of its revenue (mostly from App Store ads), collects far less info¹, does not share user info with third parties, and lets users turn off personalized ad targeting with a simple toggle². ¹ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-advertising/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-advertisin... ² https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
  - NewJazz 3y ago
    Nobody said they were the same, just pointing out in the end both will pursue the ad market.
    - CharlesW 3y ago
      My point is that Google's business model is intrinsically privacy-eroding¹, and Apple's business model is (for the foreseeable future) privacy-supporting¹. This is not to claim that Apple is "good", but that privacy is good business to Apple and is odious to Google. This is why switching is not myopic, in my estimation. ¹ (because that behavior supports their primary sources of revenue)
      - lmm 3y ago
        Both of them are trying to make as much money as they can from hardware and ads. Currently Apple is doing better at one and Google is doing better at the other, but that seems like a contingent fact rather than a deep difference.
  - bioemerl 3y ago
    > Google generates ~80% of its revenue from an ads product built on user data And apple will chase that revenue if it sees the opportunity. With their control over iOS devices, when they do, you'll be powerless to stop them.
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by mikece 3y ago

Stiffly6471 3y ago

The part where you said:"I am less concerned that Apple will exploit my data because they make plenty on the hardware." feels like such a naive way to think about Apple. This is what Forbes had to say about it: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/10/19/apples-ad-network-is-the-biggest-beneficiary-of-apples-new-marketing-rules-report/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/10/19/apples-...

TylerE 3y ago
Be vary vary vary wary. This dude (like most Forbes contributors) is a lifestyle CEO/"media consultant" just shilling his own bags.
- yosito 3y ago
  Verily, various variants of vary are very varied.

malicka 3y ago

People switching from Android to iOS for privacy reasons seems myopic to me. Apple is, ultimately, a company. There is no such thing as them “making enough money.” If they can double-dip by both selling data and selling hardware, they will. It's not a matter of if, but when. De-Googled Android is objectively a more privacy-friendly option than iOS.

CharlesW 3y ago
> People switching from Android to iOS for privacy reasons seems myopic to me. Apple is, ultimately, a company. They're not the same. Google generates ~80% of its revenue from an ads product built on user data. Apple has an ad product which generates ~5% of its revenue (mostly from App Store ads), collects far less info¹, does not share user info with third parties, and lets users turn off personalized ad targeting with a simple toggle². ¹ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-advertising/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-advertisin... ² https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
- NewJazz 3y ago
  Nobody said they were the same, just pointing out in the end both will pursue the ad market.
  - CharlesW 3y ago
    My point is that Google's business model is intrinsically privacy-eroding¹, and Apple's business model is (for the foreseeable future) privacy-supporting¹. This is not to claim that Apple is "good", but that privacy is good business to Apple and is odious to Google. This is why switching is not myopic, in my estimation. ¹ (because that behavior supports their primary sources of revenue)
    - lmm 3y ago
      Both of them are trying to make as much money as they can from hardware and ads. Currently Apple is doing better at one and Google is doing better at the other, but that seems like a contingent fact rather than a deep difference.
- bioemerl 3y ago
  > Google generates ~80% of its revenue from an ads product built on user data And apple will chase that revenue if it sees the opportunity. With their control over iOS devices, when they do, you'll be powerless to stop them.

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