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YouTube Is Killing Stories
- naillo 3y ago[deleted]
- nluken 3y agoNot sure how this is clickbait? The article reads a bit like a PR post, but the headline isn't an exaggeration and there's no bait and switch. In fact, it's relatively dry.
- notwhereyouare 3y agohow is this clickbate? It's in the article. > YouTube is getting rid of Stories, a feature for temporary posts, beginning in June. Users won’t be able to post Stories starting June 26th, and existing posts will expire after seven days.
- input_sh 3y ago> In the absence of Stories, YouTube wants creators to instead post content to other surfaces on the platform: Community Posts and Shorts. There's a difference between YouTube Stories and YouTube Shorts!? What's the difference? I legit thought they're the same thing.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoidentical to ig: stories are ig stories (transient) shorts are reels (not transient) i've upvoted this article and encourage it
- hotpotamus 3y agoI feel like an old man, but I wonder, what's wrong with just using regular youtube to post a video of any length that you want and then deleting it if for some reason you really don't want it up anymore?
- yamtaddle 3y ago1) There's automation for the "deleting it" part. 2) Viewers understand that the video is only temporarily available, without your having to tell them.
- hotpotamus 3y agoI see - I suppose my problem is that I see disappearing videos as a problem rather than a feature. What's even more annoying to me are the spots on youtube lists I've created over the years that just say the video has been removed, but doesn't even tell me what it was that is gone.
- TheAceOfHearts 3y agoStories are short videos that are only available for a limited amount of time (from a few hours to a couple days), while Shorts are regular videos with limited length. Instagram has both as well.
- fullshark 3y agoStories was their Snapchat clone and Shorts is their TikTok clone.
- dabluecaboose 3y agoDammit, I hate Shorts and I was hoping they were killing that. I exclusively use YT on a desktop computer so it's really annoying watching vertical video, not to mention the constant attempts to get me to start doomscrolling random content
- ramraj07 3y agoSucks to not be the target demographic then. Theres literally billions of people who use youtube every day on mobiles. Shorts is here to stay. Make peace with it I guess.
- willnonya 3y agoI think you miss the point. Shorts aren't really suited to the desktop yet they're crammed in there. The format isn't really suited to YouTube in general. If they really wanted to compete with tiktok they'd spin shorts off to a separate app and tune their algorithm to those users without continuing to make YouTube worse while pandering to shorts.
- BitwiseFool 3y agoTo me, they're the same thing: unwelcome.
- revskill 3y agoThis article purpose is to advertise Shorts ? (which i don't know it exists)
- geuis 3y agoI wish shorts would die. YouTube and TikTok are entirely different kinds of products. If a creator wants to make a short video, they can just make a short video. If the audience wants short videos, they'll preferentially watch them. That will show up in the creator analytics, and then they'll make shorter videos. Instead this artificial construct some product manager at YouTube came up with is showing up all over the place where it isn't wanted. It takes up valuable real estate and infests search results. What I would prefer seeing YouTube do is improve their search. You may get 15-20 relevant search results before they start mixing in shorts, other videos I've already seen, "suggested videos", etc. They also recently removed the ability to order a channel's videos from oldest to newest. Now there's just "popular". Give us back the dislike counts. At least on mobile web, say you scroll down a bit and go to a video. Most of the time when you go back the entire page reloads and you get an entirely new set of videos. This is incredibly frustrating in that you both lose your scroll position but also any other videos you might want to see that may never be surfaced to you again. And please oh please stop recommending videos I've already watched. That's what watch history is for.
- ROFISH 3y agoThe worst part is that the Shorts interface on the desktop web is awful. I hate having to watch a Short there because all the buttons and UI are all completely different. I accidentally scroll down to view comments to see the pause button and instead just get to another video. I'm sure some PM made that so that they can increase "next view" viewership, but all it does is insult me. Yes, I know Shorts can be viewed with the regular video viewer by changing the URL, but that's a pain to do that on every video. Just give me my regular UI controls back and stop enforcing this silly vertical video format on a desktop. Again, I understand why vertical videos are being promoted; mobile is indeed king, content is now made for mobile. Fine. But desktop is not mobile so give me my standard 16:9 controls back.
- jimt1234 3y agoThe worst part is Joe Rogan. Nothing against him, but Shorts carpet bombs me with video clips of him. It's so annoying. I think I've watched one of his videos, the one with Elon hittin' the blunt, and now YouTube thinks I'm a Joe Rogan stan. Ugh!
- dymk 3y agoFinally! Now kill Shorts. They take up a bunch of space on desktop, yet the player is super annoying to use. As far as I can tell, you can't scrub videos. They do a poor job of hijacking scrolling and clicking. Very unintuitive UI.
- xfitm3 3y agoI have a userscript that redirects shorts to watch?v=XXXXXX, the short video id is playable using the regular YT video player. Eliminates all the annoying UI features of shorts.
- kleiba 3y agoI'm old and so probably spend more time on youtube than all of you young guns with your Insta and TikTok and whatnot... But I've got to admit, to this day I've never heard of Stories. So they won't be missed, at least not by me.
- yamtaddle 3y agoI was aware of YouTube Shorts, but didn't know Stories existed until this headline. (Hopefully, Shorts will go next)
- nailer 3y agoVerge blogspam. Original link: https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/217640760 https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/217640760
- ramraj07 3y agoAll the comments here asking to kill Shorts because "vertical video looks shit on my desktop", like who do you think YouTube is made for? A HN nerd running Linux on a desktop or the average person who has likely never touched a desktop in their life? I remember few years back when it was genuinely cool to make fun of and take moral high ground over people taking vertical videos. How times have changed indeed! Even back then I felt vertical videos were the future (on a mobile device it was the natural filming pose, and the videos looked more immersive and personal). The UI just had to catch up (and we have to credit tik tik for discovering that).
- modernpink 3y agoPlease tell me there's a way to stream YouTube videos in 256 colors in the terminal as ASCII art. As God intended.
- itronitron 3y agoWhat are the dimensions of your preferred terminal?
- ayewo 3y agoThis is now possible (sorta), as at 3 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34547259 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34547259
- itronitron 3y agonot quite ascii art, but streaming YT to the terminal... https://github.com/saitoha/FFmpeg-SIXEL https://github.com/saitoha/FFmpeg-SIXEL
- hbn 3y agoVertical works fine for like, a video of someone talking. But majority of scenarios it just doesn't make sense. Film aspect ratios evolved the way they did for a reason. If you're trying to fit a lot of "things" into frame, due to the nature of gravity they're probably gonna be sitting horizontally next to each other. Not stacked on top of each other vertically. If I want to take a picture of my desk I need to shoot in landscape. If I really want to do it in portrait I'm gonna have to either use a fish-eye lens to warp the shot, or take several steps back, leaving a bunch of useless space on the top/bottom. It's not just a concern of device form factor.
- throwaway2203 3y agoThose hating on shorts need to watch old people use YouTube. They have no idea what TikTok is, but they get suckered into shorts so fast when they open "YouTube".
- rgreekguy 3y agoAn interesting thing that no one (I think/hope) has mentioned: Shorts are just glorified videos. Mind you, I have only watched less than a handful of them, more than a couple of months ago but here it goes: The URL is something like youtube.com/shorts/w12jfk. That last part is the random ID YouTube assigns. If you change the link to a video link, youtube.com/watch?v=w12jfk, then you get the normal interface. (The ID is randomly typed) Maybe a bookmarklet, or something, could make things bearable, but there still giving clicks to Shorts, probably. Edit: But the post is about Stories, huh... A thing I hardly remember it existed. So much for a first comment.
- _23sd 3y ago>In the absence of Stories, YouTube wants creators to instead post content to other surfaces on the platform: Community Posts and Shorts. The company recently expanded access to Community Posts, a text-based updates feature, and added the ability to have posts expire after a certain period. YouTube seems really dedicated to Community Posts and pushing creators to use them, except that they don't seem to plan on ever making them viewable in the iPad app where a huge portion of the audience is. Virtually every other feature, including Stories, was added on iPad at about the same time as iPhone, except Community Posts are years behind. Weird.
- willnonya 3y agoYes, let's focus on content for the ADHD crowd. Let's create a situation where videos crop out relevant bits and end mid sentence. Let's incentize channels to post videos that end before the payoff promised in the title and let them end with vapid promises that it will be in a part two that doesn't and will never exist. YouTube and YouTube shorts should be two separate apps/sites sevibg two distinct types of content not one where shorts in crammed into a format it isn't suited for.
- xnx 3y agoI'm truly surprised no one has leapfrogged the short-form war (especially with ads) and started inserting blipverts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blipvert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blipvert
- daotoad 3y agoBased on all the love people are expressing for "Shorts" here, I feel like the feature should be renamed "Pants". This joke only makes sense if you understand UK-type English.
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- dirtyid 3y agoShorts are fine if they figured out better UI not to mix into longer videos.
- pwpw 3y agoThis is exciting! This is the inverse of my rule of thumb: An app is past its peak once a stories feature has been added. After that point, it has become overly bloated and will shift towards no longer be worth using. Over time, I have watched stories be added to multiple apps that make no sense such as Uber Eats. Whenever an app has added a stories feature unnecessarily, I have uninstalled the app because it has lost focus and no longer delivers a quality experience for me. I wonder if this means that YouTube will now increase in quality. We shall have to wait and see!
- ruupesssh 3y ago[flagged]