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The shear amount of floundering that twitter has done since Elon bought it is hilarious as a non-user. I do feel bad for the people who just like using twitter

The shear amount of floundering that twitter has done since Elon bought it is hilarious as a non-user. I do feel bad for the people who just like using twitter though, like every other week the checkmark means something different. I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now. Elon really knows how to shake up a company! And by shake up I mean destroy one step at a time.

spaceman_2020 3y ago
For quite some time, crypto scams and fake airdrops were literally showing up under sponsored posts. There was a big (real) Arbitrum airdrop and for for days, I would see ads for a (fake) airdrop.
MuffinFlavored 3y ago
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- JohnMakin 3y ago
  > are you/have you ever been worth over $100b-$200b? If not... how can you sit there and cast judgement as if you actually know anything about what's going on behind the scenes/at his wealth level?... This is such a hilarious fallacy it barely deserves a response. Hope you enjoy spending $8/month on twitter. His decisions have been objectively bad.
  - bongoz 3y ago
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  - edu4hnta05159 3y ago
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  - lazyeye 3y ago
    I wonder if Twitter is already generating more revenue now compared to pre-Elon days when it was a massively over-staffed activist organisation.
    - kaba0 3y ago
      Yeah all that profit from companies pulling out
- longbrass 3y ago
  > are you/have you ever been worth over $100b-$200b? If not... how can you sit there and cast judgement as if you actually know anything about what's going on behind the scenes/at his wealth level?... This is some Cornithan's level Biblical reasoning right here..
giobox 3y ago
While I think the app and service has gotten much worse in several ways post-Elon, I do see way less crypto spam than before FWIW. The "For You" tab now actually sometimes even surfaces tweets I'm interested in too now. Performance and general stability has absolutely fallen for me though, and the launch of the DeSantis campaign on Twitter was a technical embarrassment/disaster as far as I could tell.
- kentm 3y ago
  For me, the Twitter Blue boost has really led to a general drop in quality. I find that Blue subscribers typically don't say valuable things and are some of the most uninteresting people on the app, and yet they get boosted right to the top.
  - giobox 3y ago
    Agreed, this is a very fair point. I'm also sad at the voices that have been lost one way or another through this transition.
  - davidbarker 3y ago
    My experience is the same. Look at any POTUS or White House tweet (or a tweet from any well-known left-of-centre account) and it's reply after reply full of vitriol and hate, all pushed to the top. It's remarkable, and sad.
    - tracker1 3y ago
      To be fair, it's the same for any right-of-center account as well. The vitriolic are engaging with opposition as much as anyone. It definitely plays in both directions. My own take, is I'd like to see the establishment sellouts pushed out at far greater and faster rates, even though I don't necessarily agree with many positions, I don't like the corporatist sellouts and most politicians reach that point within a single term of federal office. There are grassroots efforts in both D & R camps to do just that. That doesn't even get into the deep establishment in terms of Military Industrial Complex or Pharma/Food revolving doors in place. It's kind of gross. It's honestly at a point, that even if I'm in favor of more Libertarian solutions, while others want Socialism, most can agree, the establishment needs to go first, then can debate on longer term reforms.
snickerbockers 3y ago
>I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now Wasn't that already a problem before he took over? I seem to recall Joe Biden hawking some crypto scam after Twitter's admin got catfished into giving a third party access to his account.
WalterBright 3y ago
> The shear amount of floundering On the other hand, this looks to me like trying all sorts of things to see what will work.
olalonde 3y ago
He cut Twitter's expenses significantly while avoiding reliability issues (a feat that debunked several predictions by tech "experts" on HN about potential major outages) and while adding several new useful features. Admittedly, his decision to unban several controversial figures was debatable from a business standpoint, at least in the short term. However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, based on principles rather than profits. Your impression is probably heavily biased by traditional media, who in general do not like him one bit.
- likeafox 3y ago
  >However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, underscoring his commitment to uphold freedom of speech over profits. Why did the same commitment to speech over profit not apply to his decision making when he filtered Substack, or Mastadon URLs?
  - olalonde 3y ago
    My understanding is that Elon is mainly interested in eliminating ideologically and politically motivated censorship. He has recently given an interview on what he calls the "woke mind virus"[0], in which he talks about his views on free speech. Banning links to a Twitter competitor would not necessarily be inconsistent with this objective. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEaTk--tZo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEaTk--tZo
    - mthoms 3y ago
      It's certainly not consistent with being a "free speech absolutist", which was the descriptor he gave himself.
      - olalonde 3y ago
        The first definition I found on "free speech absolutist": > Free speech absolutists believe that any limitation on political speech is veering into dangerous territory. They believe that restricting free speech in any way, including curbing insulting or factually incorrect speech, means assigning gatekeepers who decide what can and cannot be expressed in public. Twitter's censorship policy does seem to have moved in that direction in general. But I grant you that the terms are a bit overloaded and it's not always clear what people mean by them. PS: Edited "free speech" to "principles" since it was causing much debate about semantics.
matsemann 3y ago
Most annoying thing is blue checks being boosted to the top of every thread. Especially since most blues in my replies are either scams or harassment. So I just hide all blues and tell them to pay me $8 to be visible, lol.
rejectfinite 3y ago
For me, it's better. They removed the annoying login pop-up. I only interact with twitter using links from other platforms. I don't use the trending hashtags or search. So for me, it's been better since Elon took over.
- mthoms 3y ago
  I still see the popup when not logged in. Every time.

spaceman_2020 3y ago

For quite some time, crypto scams and fake airdrops were literally showing up under sponsored posts. There was a big (real) Arbitrum airdrop and for for days, I would see ads for a (fake) airdrop.

MuffinFlavored 3y ago

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JohnMakin 3y ago
> are you/have you ever been worth over $100b-$200b? If not... how can you sit there and cast judgement as if you actually know anything about what's going on behind the scenes/at his wealth level?... This is such a hilarious fallacy it barely deserves a response. Hope you enjoy spending $8/month on twitter. His decisions have been objectively bad.
- bongoz 3y ago
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- edu4hnta05159 3y ago
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- lazyeye 3y ago
  I wonder if Twitter is already generating more revenue now compared to pre-Elon days when it was a massively over-staffed activist organisation.
  - kaba0 3y ago
    Yeah all that profit from companies pulling out
longbrass 3y ago
> are you/have you ever been worth over $100b-$200b? If not... how can you sit there and cast judgement as if you actually know anything about what's going on behind the scenes/at his wealth level?... This is some Cornithan's level Biblical reasoning right here..

giobox 3y ago

While I think the app and service has gotten much worse in several ways post-Elon, I do see way less crypto spam than before FWIW. The "For You" tab now actually sometimes even surfaces tweets I'm interested in too now. Performance and general stability has absolutely fallen for me though, and the launch of the DeSantis campaign on Twitter was a technical embarrassment/disaster as far as I could tell.

kentm 3y ago
For me, the Twitter Blue boost has really led to a general drop in quality. I find that Blue subscribers typically don't say valuable things and are some of the most uninteresting people on the app, and yet they get boosted right to the top.
- giobox 3y ago
  Agreed, this is a very fair point. I'm also sad at the voices that have been lost one way or another through this transition.
- davidbarker 3y ago
  My experience is the same. Look at any POTUS or White House tweet (or a tweet from any well-known left-of-centre account) and it's reply after reply full of vitriol and hate, all pushed to the top. It's remarkable, and sad.
  - tracker1 3y ago
    To be fair, it's the same for any right-of-center account as well. The vitriolic are engaging with opposition as much as anyone. It definitely plays in both directions. My own take, is I'd like to see the establishment sellouts pushed out at far greater and faster rates, even though I don't necessarily agree with many positions, I don't like the corporatist sellouts and most politicians reach that point within a single term of federal office. There are grassroots efforts in both D & R camps to do just that. That doesn't even get into the deep establishment in terms of Military Industrial Complex or Pharma/Food revolving doors in place. It's kind of gross. It's honestly at a point, that even if I'm in favor of more Libertarian solutions, while others want Socialism, most can agree, the establishment needs to go first, then can debate on longer term reforms.

snickerbockers 3y ago

>I hear the trending tab is overrun with crypto spam now Wasn't that already a problem before he took over? I seem to recall Joe Biden hawking some crypto scam after Twitter's admin got catfished into giving a third party access to his account.

WalterBright 3y ago

> The shear amount of floundering On the other hand, this looks to me like trying all sorts of things to see what will work.

olalonde 3y ago

He cut Twitter's expenses significantly while avoiding reliability issues (a feat that debunked several predictions by tech "experts" on HN about potential major outages) and while adding several new useful features. Admittedly, his decision to unban several controversial figures was debatable from a business standpoint, at least in the short term. However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, based on principles rather than profits. Your impression is probably heavily biased by traditional media, who in general do not like him one bit.

likeafox 3y ago
>However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, underscoring his commitment to uphold freedom of speech over profits. Why did the same commitment to speech over profit not apply to his decision making when he filtered Substack, or Mastadon URLs?
- olalonde 3y ago
  My understanding is that Elon is mainly interested in eliminating ideologically and politically motivated censorship. He has recently given an interview on what he calls the "woke mind virus"[0], in which he talks about his views on free speech. Banning links to a Twitter competitor would not necessarily be inconsistent with this objective. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEaTk--tZo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEaTk--tZo
  - mthoms 3y ago
    It's certainly not consistent with being a "free speech absolutist", which was the descriptor he gave himself.
    - olalonde 3y ago
      The first definition I found on "free speech absolutist": > Free speech absolutists believe that any limitation on political speech is veering into dangerous territory. They believe that restricting free speech in any way, including curbing insulting or factually incorrect speech, means assigning gatekeepers who decide what can and cannot be expressed in public. Twitter's censorship policy does seem to have moved in that direction in general. But I grant you that the terms are a bit overloaded and it's not always clear what people mean by them. PS: Edited "free speech" to "principles" since it was causing much debate about semantics.

matsemann 3y ago

Most annoying thing is blue checks being boosted to the top of every thread. Especially since most blues in my replies are either scams or harassment. So I just hide all blues and tell them to pay me $8 to be visible, lol.

rejectfinite 3y ago

For me, it's better. They removed the annoying login pop-up. I only interact with twitter using links from other platforms. I don't use the trending hashtags or search. So for me, it's been better since Elon took over.

mthoms 3y ago
I still see the popup when not logged in. Every time.