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"Orthodox Jews by vast margins support Israel, you've been a victim of disinformation. " Possible, there is lots of disinformation going on. My wording also mi
by hutzlibu 3y ago
"Orthodox Jews by vast margins support Israel, you've been a victim of disinformation. "
Possible, there is lots of disinformation going on. My wording also might have been bad, but by my definition and understanding orthodox jews aim for a 100% jewish state. And Israel is not 100% jewish, but tries a mixture as they also have arab and beduin population with voting rights. So orthodox jews surely mostly support Israel as being mostly jewish, but they rather would support a 100% jewish Israel state.
- reissbaker 3y ago"By my understanding Orthodox Jews aim for a 100% Jewish state" Most of my family is Orthodox, I was raised Orthodox, and have a pretty clear understanding of Orthodoxy's views on Israel (which is generally pro-Israel). You are confusing various ultra-Orthodox (also called "Haredi") sects, some of whom are anti-Zionist, but not for the reasons you're giving — in fact, the largest anti-Zionist Haredi sect (although "largest" here is still only ~100k globally), the Satmar, are specifically against Israel being Jewish because they view pre-Messianic Jewish states as contrary to Jewish law. The Neturei Karta, an even smaller but more extreme Haredi sect (~5k adherents globally), go so far as to politically support dismantling Israel and replacing it with an Islamic state. These are pretty niche groups within Orthodoxy, though, which is ~2MM globally; nearly all sects of which support the State of Israel.
- hutzlibu 3y agoThanks for clarifying, I definitely should have used "Ultra-Orthodox" then. The extremists are usually just the loudest and the most extreme phrases get the most media coverage with usually bad context, ... which can be summed up as missinformation, I fell for.