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Back then the movie industry could tell good stories. Nowadays they just approach storytelling from weird angles and hope it hit something. Probably because all

Back then the movie industry could tell good stories. Nowadays they just approach storytelling from weird angles and hope it hit something. Probably because all good stories have been told already.

danpalmer 3y ago
I think the movie industry can still tell good stories, I just think that many movies don't optimise for this and instead optimise for revenue (across cinemas, streaming, merch, TV, etc). There have been some amazing films in recent years with plenty of effort put into their craft. Villenueve's Dune and Arrival come to mind in Sci-Fi, things like Everything Everywhere All At Once, Knives Out, these are all films that I think have been made with a deep appreciation for the craft, without trying to appeal too widely and lose their depth. I guess you could argue that some of these are telling from "weird angles", but I'm not sure I'd agree, and even if so I think those differences bring significant value rather than being gimmicks.
samstave 3y ago
Kind of ironic that the Writers Guild is on strike... "Hey guys, I get your plight on the strike - but how about you go write something that isnt a big Ego-Dick-Swinging-Contest-Amongst-Producers"
- yamtaddle 3y ago
  You never see the stuff they write that nobody funds. Blame the people writing the checks for what gets produced, not the writers.
  - samstave 3y ago
    [flagged]
- fknorangesite 3y ago
  Direct this complaint at producers, not writers.
  - samstave 3y ago
    Thats who this was directed at ; leech producures and the hoops writers have to jump through.
tombert 3y ago
I feel like there are plenty of decent movies being made in modern times, and plenty of bad movies from the 70's. We only remember the good stuff from the 70's and forget most of the bad. For example, in regards to sci-fi, it's not super recent but I thought Arrival [1] was actually really good. It told a solid story in a somewhat unique way. I also think a few episodes of Black Mirror have done a pretty decent job with some of their stories. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_%28film%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_%28film%29
- yamtaddle 3y ago
  The 2010s in sci-fi gaves us: - Dredd - Melancholia (may not qualify for some sci-fi fans, I suppose, and I can understand why—it's so very allegorical) - High Life - Under the Skin - Annihilation - Ex Machina - Edge of Tomorrow - Looper - Blade Runner 2049 - Sorry to Bother You - Arrival - Mad Max: Fury Road - The Last Jedi (I know lots of people hated it—I think it's the only more-or-less good Star Wars movie since the original trilogy, and was shocked at the broadly-negative reaction, having come out of the theater thinking "finally, we got a good one, even if it did play the ending way too safe; everyone's going to be so happy!". We're not gonna change each other's minds in HN comments. Agree to disagree.) And that's just the ones I've seen and thought were somewhere between good and great. And that I could remember or quickly find a reminder of with a quick search. I hear very good things about the new Planet of the Apes series (like, "each entry is better than the last" good) but have only seen the first one. Lots of people liked Rogue One, Snowpiercer, Ad Astra, and Interstellar (I didn't, or at least didn't think they were notably good, but hey, lots of people did). Godzilla, Pacific Rim, and Kong were OK romps. Heard good things about Upgrade and Attack the Block, but haven't seen them. The Martian was OK (some loved it). Inception was alright (again, lots of others like it way more than I do). How many really good sci-fi movies did the 70s produce? The 80s? I think we're doing fine.
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    > Melancholia (may not qualify for some sci-fi fans, how about there is no fictitious science in that movie?
mynameishere 3y ago
A story about a monster on a flying sewer.

Back then the movie industry could tell good stories. Nowadays they just approach storytelling from weird angles and hope it hit something. Probably because all good stories have been told already.

danpalmer 3y ago

I think the movie industry can still tell good stories, I just think that many movies don't optimise for this and instead optimise for revenue (across cinemas, streaming, merch, TV, etc). There have been some amazing films in recent years with plenty of effort put into their craft. Villenueve's Dune and Arrival come to mind in Sci-Fi, things like Everything Everywhere All At Once, Knives Out, these are all films that I think have been made with a deep appreciation for the craft, without trying to appeal too widely and lose their depth. I guess you could argue that some of these are telling from "weird angles", but I'm not sure I'd agree, and even if so I think those differences bring significant value rather than being gimmicks.

samstave 3y ago

Kind of ironic that the Writers Guild is on strike... "Hey guys, I get your plight on the strike - but how about you go write something that isnt a big Ego-Dick-Swinging-Contest-Amongst-Producers"

yamtaddle 3y ago
You never see the stuff they write that nobody funds. Blame the people writing the checks for what gets produced, not the writers.
- samstave 3y ago
  [flagged]
fknorangesite 3y ago
Direct this complaint at producers, not writers.
- samstave 3y ago
  Thats who this was directed at ; leech producures and the hoops writers have to jump through.

tombert 3y ago

I feel like there are plenty of decent movies being made in modern times, and plenty of bad movies from the 70's. We only remember the good stuff from the 70's and forget most of the bad. For example, in regards to sci-fi, it's not super recent but I thought Arrival [1] was actually really good. It told a solid story in a somewhat unique way. I also think a few episodes of Black Mirror have done a pretty decent job with some of their stories. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_%28film%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_%28film%29

yamtaddle 3y ago
The 2010s in sci-fi gaves us: - Dredd - Melancholia (may not qualify for some sci-fi fans, I suppose, and I can understand why—it's so very allegorical) - High Life - Under the Skin - Annihilation - Ex Machina - Edge of Tomorrow - Looper - Blade Runner 2049 - Sorry to Bother You - Arrival - Mad Max: Fury Road - The Last Jedi (I know lots of people hated it—I think it's the only more-or-less good Star Wars movie since the original trilogy, and was shocked at the broadly-negative reaction, having come out of the theater thinking "finally, we got a good one, even if it did play the ending way too safe; everyone's going to be so happy!". We're not gonna change each other's minds in HN comments. Agree to disagree.) And that's just the ones I've seen and thought were somewhere between good and great. And that I could remember or quickly find a reminder of with a quick search. I hear very good things about the new Planet of the Apes series (like, "each entry is better than the last" good) but have only seen the first one. Lots of people liked Rogue One, Snowpiercer, Ad Astra, and Interstellar (I didn't, or at least didn't think they were notably good, but hey, lots of people did). Godzilla, Pacific Rim, and Kong were OK romps. Heard good things about Upgrade and Attack the Block, but haven't seen them. The Martian was OK (some loved it). Inception was alright (again, lots of others like it way more than I do). How many really good sci-fi movies did the 70s produce? The 80s? I think we're doing fine.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  > Melancholia (may not qualify for some sci-fi fans, how about there is no fictitious science in that movie?

mynameishere 3y ago

A story about a monster on a flying sewer.