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There are many more Israeli civilian casualties as a result of terrorist action. Though there are Palestinians who have been killed by Palestinian terrorists as

by vxNsr 3y ago

There are many more Israeli civilian casualties as a result of terrorist action. Though there are Palestinians who have been killed by Palestinian terrorists as well. But I would add them to the tally of civilians casualties of palestinian terror. Not clear where you’re getting that more palestinians have died from terrorism. The IDF doesn’t regularly bomb refugee camps to take out one terrorist. They often have precision strikes that take out a single person. The IDF has very often canceled a strike due to civilians/children getting too close. The first link appears to be an actual battle that was rebranded a massacre for optics. In an active battle during a war non-combatants will die. Calling that terrorism is simply dishonest. The 2nd link was blown wildly out of proportion, a group of Israelis rioted and burnt down… a junk yard. The before and after don’t look that different. This was again a large effort by anti-semetic western media to paint the Jews as in the wrong and totally ignore the multiple murders/terrorist attacks committed by the local Arab population in the very recent past (as in same day). This was an angry mob response to an unjustified killing…hmmm does that sound familiar, are you calling the 2020 protests terrorism? This is as simple as it gets: the Arabs take every chance they get to murder Jews. The Jews take great pains to defend themselves and protect all life in the vicinity. Do they fail sometimes and kill someone unintentionally? Sure but they also hold themselves to account, and take every (even unreasonable) effort to only target those who are actively threatening other people’s lives. I don’t think you’re being honest in your argument.

willcipriano 3y ago
> The IDF has very often canceled a strike due to civilians/children getting too close. If that's true how did this happen as a single example of many: "Israel stated it fired on the school in response to militant gunfire believed to be coming from al-Fakhura. A UN inquiry said that there was no firing from within the school and there were no explosives within the school." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Fakhura_school_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Fakhura_school_incident
- vxNsr 3y ago
  That appears to have been during an active conflict, not a precision strike. I’m not saying no civilians have ever been killed. I’m saying Israel takes great pains to protect civilian life. You cherry picked a paragraph that makes it appear that Israel bombed a school, instead what actually happened was Israel returned fire at a location near a school, and the UN agrees it was fine.
hutzlibu 3y ago
"There are many more Israeli civilian casualties as a result of terrorist action. " I really do not claim to be an expert of the conflict, but I try to be neutral and the first google result shows: https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/ https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-cas... "The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) has been tracking deaths in the conflict since 2008 and its data shows that 5,600 Palestinians died up to 2020 while 115,000 were injured. 250 Israelis died during the same period while 5,600 were injured." 5600 vs 250 But sure, that text alone does not cite exactly who was killed, but even if you also count teenagers who throw rocks at walls as terrorists - then I still doubt you get a higher israeli death toll. "The 2nd link was blown wildly out of proportion, a group of Israelis rioted and burnt down… a junk yard. " And killed someone and wounded 4. "In an active battle during a war non-combatants will die. Calling that terrorism is simply dishonest." "Some of the Palestinian Arabs were killed in the course of the battle, others while trying to flee or surrender. A number of prisoners were executed, some after being paraded in West Jerusalem, where they were jeered, spat at, stoned, and eventually executed.[1][5][6] In addition to the killing and widespread looting, there may have been cases of mutilation and rape" And this really does not sound like just ordinary combat casualties to me. Also are you aware of the context? The villagers were trying to defend their homes. They lived there. Why did they had to go away to make room for Israeli settlers? This is the core of the Palestine grief as far as I understand. They lived there and then they had to go away and live now in a prison without rights. I don't think the conflict can ever be resolved by just stating they are all terrorists. Now quite some of them are, sure, but maybe there are reasons, why they became that way?
f6v 3y ago
> the Arabs take every chance they get to murder Jews. And this, my friends, is the problem. Blanket statements aka racism. There’s no way to end a conflict peacefully if that’s the dominant point of view.

by vxNsr 3y ago

willcipriano 3y ago

> The IDF has very often canceled a strike due to civilians/children getting too close. If that's true how did this happen as a single example of many: "Israel stated it fired on the school in response to militant gunfire believed to be coming from al-Fakhura. A UN inquiry said that there was no firing from within the school and there were no explosives within the school." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Fakhura_school_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Fakhura_school_incident

vxNsr 3y ago
That appears to have been during an active conflict, not a precision strike. I’m not saying no civilians have ever been killed. I’m saying Israel takes great pains to protect civilian life. You cherry picked a paragraph that makes it appear that Israel bombed a school, instead what actually happened was Israel returned fire at a location near a school, and the UN agrees it was fine.

hutzlibu 3y ago

"There are many more Israeli civilian casualties as a result of terrorist action. " I really do not claim to be an expert of the conflict, but I try to be neutral and the first google result shows: https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/ https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-cas... "The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) has been tracking deaths in the conflict since 2008 and its data shows that 5,600 Palestinians died up to 2020 while 115,000 were injured. 250 Israelis died during the same period while 5,600 were injured." 5600 vs 250 But sure, that text alone does not cite exactly who was killed, but even if you also count teenagers who throw rocks at walls as terrorists - then I still doubt you get a higher israeli death toll. "The 2nd link was blown wildly out of proportion, a group of Israelis rioted and burnt down… a junk yard. " And killed someone and wounded 4. "In an active battle during a war non-combatants will die. Calling that terrorism is simply dishonest." "Some of the Palestinian Arabs were killed in the course of the battle, others while trying to flee or surrender. A number of prisoners were executed, some after being paraded in West Jerusalem, where they were jeered, spat at, stoned, and eventually executed.[1][5][6] In addition to the killing and widespread looting, there may have been cases of mutilation and rape" And this really does not sound like just ordinary combat casualties to me. Also are you aware of the context? The villagers were trying to defend their homes. They lived there. Why did they had to go away to make room for Israeli settlers? This is the core of the Palestine grief as far as I understand. They lived there and then they had to go away and live now in a prison without rights. I don't think the conflict can ever be resolved by just stating they are all terrorists. Now quite some of them are, sure, but maybe there are reasons, why they became that way?

f6v 3y ago

> the Arabs take every chance they get to murder Jews. And this, my friends, is the problem. Blanket statements aka racism. There’s no way to end a conflict peacefully if that’s the dominant point of view.