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It's probably a lot easier to quit carbs than fat. Most people just don't know that fat is a (healthy) option. Though, as you said, happily that is changing.

It's probably a lot easier to quit carbs than fat. Most people just don't know that fat is a (healthy) option. Though, as you said, happily that is changing. (Edit to say, speaking as a certified ketobro, I don't think you should do keto all the time, forever. A break day or two every few weeks, and stretches of healthy mixed-diet eating, in my experience, gets you the same benefits)

naasking 3y ago
> It's probably a lot easier to quit carbs than fat. Most people just don't know that fat is a (healthy) option. Not just healthy, but essential. You need a certain amount of fats for your sex hormones to actually work, so unless you want to stop menstruating/not interested in having erections, keep eating healthy fats.
tstrimple 3y ago
The "low fat" foods which just replace fat with sugar are the worst for me. I hate that they are advertising it as being "more healthy" when it's clearly not. I finally got my wife to switch away from Miracle Whip and just eat real mayo. There is sugar, especially HFCS, in so much stuff that shouldn't have it.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
  With HFCS instead of bona fide glucose sugar, you also risk getting NAFLD later in life. Liver’s capacity to process fructose appears to be lower than glucose.
  - amanaplanacanal 3y ago
    Not just HFCS though. Regular cane sugar is 50% or so fructose. Real sugar coke isn't any healthier than HFCS coke. Where do you get glucose sugar?
    - cultofmetatron 3y ago
      regular can sugar is almost entirely SUCROSE which your body breaks down into glucose and fructose. its not dumping a bunch of fructose into your body. furthermore, we have sensors in our body to inhibit sugar craving in the presence of glucose or sucrose. we have no such sensor for fructose. so even if you did have 50% pure fructose in cane sugar, you would drink less real sugar coke because you'd feel satisfied after drinking a much smaller amount than those HFCS abominations.
WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
There’s a very major caveat of jumping off keto abruptly (having a cheat day): https://www.everydayhealth.com/ketogenic-diet/cheat-day-on-keto-diet-may-harm-blood-vessels-study/ https://www.everydayhealth.com/ketogenic-diet/cheat-day-on-k... Sudden jump off keto may cause inflammatory damage to the endothelium of your blood vessels, and while in that one study, effects had been “transient”, I wouldn’t risk cheat days without a very gradual reintroduction of carbs, and surely not repeated cheat days. (My personal fat diabetic ass says it had a lifetime of carbs, though, so that’s not happening for me until at least 20 kg later.) I know it’s just one study, but I would rather be safe than sorry until we know more. Case in point: the study subjects were all young and healthy, and most people who really need to go very low carb are not.
- johnyzee 3y ago
  Thanks for the link, I think there is something to it. I have personally experienced, on multiple occasions, getting rather sick if I eat anything very sugary while on keto. So a 'cheat day' should probably be more like eating some wholegrain bread, lentils, some raw fruit of choice, or stuff like that. If you're on keto, that will almost feel like eating candy anyway :)

naasking 3y ago

> It's probably a lot easier to quit carbs than fat. Most people just don't know that fat is a (healthy) option. Not just healthy, but essential. You need a certain amount of fats for your sex hormones to actually work, so unless you want to stop menstruating/not interested in having erections, keep eating healthy fats.

tstrimple 3y ago

The "low fat" foods which just replace fat with sugar are the worst for me. I hate that they are advertising it as being "more healthy" when it's clearly not. I finally got my wife to switch away from Miracle Whip and just eat real mayo. There is sugar, especially HFCS, in so much stuff that shouldn't have it.

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
With HFCS instead of bona fide glucose sugar, you also risk getting NAFLD later in life. Liver’s capacity to process fructose appears to be lower than glucose.
- amanaplanacanal 3y ago
  Not just HFCS though. Regular cane sugar is 50% or so fructose. Real sugar coke isn't any healthier than HFCS coke. Where do you get glucose sugar?
  - cultofmetatron 3y ago
    regular can sugar is almost entirely SUCROSE which your body breaks down into glucose and fructose. its not dumping a bunch of fructose into your body. furthermore, we have sensors in our body to inhibit sugar craving in the presence of glucose or sucrose. we have no such sensor for fructose. so even if you did have 50% pure fructose in cane sugar, you would drink less real sugar coke because you'd feel satisfied after drinking a much smaller amount than those HFCS abominations.

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago

There’s a very major caveat of jumping off keto abruptly (having a cheat day): https://www.everydayhealth.com/ketogenic-diet/cheat-day-on-keto-diet-may-harm-blood-vessels-study/ https://www.everydayhealth.com/ketogenic-diet/cheat-day-on-k... Sudden jump off keto may cause inflammatory damage to the endothelium of your blood vessels, and while in that one study, effects had been “transient”, I wouldn’t risk cheat days without a very gradual reintroduction of carbs, and surely not repeated cheat days. (My personal fat diabetic ass says it had a lifetime of carbs, though, so that’s not happening for me until at least 20 kg later.) I know it’s just one study, but I would rather be safe than sorry until we know more. Case in point: the study subjects were all young and healthy, and most people who really need to go very low carb are not.

johnyzee 3y ago
Thanks for the link, I think there is something to it. I have personally experienced, on multiple occasions, getting rather sick if I eat anything very sugary while on keto. So a 'cheat day' should probably be more like eating some wholegrain bread, lentils, some raw fruit of choice, or stuff like that. If you're on keto, that will almost feel like eating candy anyway :)