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The difference is on keto it is hard to gain weight (I struggle a little for muscle gain with lifting weights) and on normal-carbs it is hard to lose weight. -

The difference is on keto it is hard to gain weight (I struggle a little for muscle gain with lifting weights) and on normal-carbs it is hard to lose weight. ------- > On the other hand, there exists evidence that hardcore keto just for weight loss doesn’t outperform non-ketogenic low carb > I’m positive that keto should be more for those who find it improving their mental state and diabetes; general population, not so much. Good luck in practice though! Good luck being a doctor or a personal trainer and telling that to your patients/clients (just eat a small ice-cream bro! just suffer through it). Not everybody is a body builder (they do the gain/cut thing). > Hitting the gym is optional This should not be optional. Unless you train in your job or something. >2) fix your sleep hygiene ASAP This and your other points should be unrelated to the diet. > About 3): my N=1 confirms Depends how "good" you want to feel and if you want to experiment with even better. Feel free to N=1 on yourself by fixing everything first, and only then, try a very-high-fat keto diet (~80% fat). You might be wrong on this one (many people are, meaning starting keto when they're already done everything else).

LegitShady 3y ago
My doctor and nutritionist actually told me I need to get more calories from fat. I switched to keto but was getting way too many calories from protein. I was (and still sort of am) struggling to get healthy sources of fat that fit into the rest of my diet and don't waste carbs on food I don't really want to eat. getting most of your calories from fat is actually ridiculously hard for me. Its way easier to me to eat steak and cabbage and broccolli and tomatoes forever. Apparently thats not a good diet though. Wasting carbs to eat fat rich foods like avocado or dairy fat like butter/cream/cheese hurts my soul.
- ddorian43 3y ago
  > getting most of your calories from fat is actually ridiculously hard for me. You can ask your doctor or you can search online in a keto forum. Things that have personally worked for me: 1. pour a lot of olive oil (say 10 tablespoons) on salads. After eating the salad I just drink the olive oil. 2. Get MCT oil during the day in tea spoons. 3. (best/cheapest for me and I currently do) Get beef fat trimmings and fry/air-fry/slow-cook them (see https://www.instagram.com/p/CrhH9CBo1mC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CrhH9CBo1mC/ for that and other high fat carnivore recipes)
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    eating oil is pretty gross. I'll have to look into the beef fat thing. I started having coffee with cream and eating some eggs and avocado everyday but it seems there aren't that many sources of fat that aren't pure oil/fat that don't otherwise come with avocado.
    - ddorian43 3y ago
      > eating oil is pretty gross It is. But you hopefully get used to it? Other examples: 1. eat only egg yolks (i'm actually alergic to egg whites) 2. Eat the foods with most carbs before gym. This way you can utilise some carbs for gym and you'll still keep high levels of ketones (see /r/ketogains protocol) 3. See the instagram account I linked. 4. See what they do for epilepsy (hint: they kinda drink oil because they need 90%) The beef fat trimmings are still kinda oil, just in nicer form and nicer taste. Literally eat 0.5kg-1kg of beef fat trimmings a day (they get 1/4 size after cooking)
WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
> Not everybody is a body builder (they do the gain/cut thing). Neither am I. I do modest workouts so I don’t lose muscle on keto, but it’s mostly to manage type 2 diabetes and lose body fat (which, again, is to manage the diabetes and maybe get some of my insulin sensitivity back). > > 2) fix your sleep hygiene ASAP > This and your other points should be unrelated to the diet. But turns out, they are. The human organism is a complex thing, and it turns out that if your circadian clock and eating habits are out of sync, you’re royally screwed. Sleep is not an afterthought, it kinda all starts with it.

LegitShady 3y ago

My doctor and nutritionist actually told me I need to get more calories from fat. I switched to keto but was getting way too many calories from protein. I was (and still sort of am) struggling to get healthy sources of fat that fit into the rest of my diet and don't waste carbs on food I don't really want to eat. getting most of your calories from fat is actually ridiculously hard for me. Its way easier to me to eat steak and cabbage and broccolli and tomatoes forever. Apparently thats not a good diet though. Wasting carbs to eat fat rich foods like avocado or dairy fat like butter/cream/cheese hurts my soul.

ddorian43 3y ago
> getting most of your calories from fat is actually ridiculously hard for me. You can ask your doctor or you can search online in a keto forum. Things that have personally worked for me: 1. pour a lot of olive oil (say 10 tablespoons) on salads. After eating the salad I just drink the olive oil. 2. Get MCT oil during the day in tea spoons. 3. (best/cheapest for me and I currently do) Get beef fat trimmings and fry/air-fry/slow-cook them (see https://www.instagram.com/p/CrhH9CBo1mC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CrhH9CBo1mC/ for that and other high fat carnivore recipes)
- LegitShady 3y ago
  eating oil is pretty gross. I'll have to look into the beef fat thing. I started having coffee with cream and eating some eggs and avocado everyday but it seems there aren't that many sources of fat that aren't pure oil/fat that don't otherwise come with avocado.
  - ddorian43 3y ago
    > eating oil is pretty gross It is. But you hopefully get used to it? Other examples: 1. eat only egg yolks (i'm actually alergic to egg whites) 2. Eat the foods with most carbs before gym. This way you can utilise some carbs for gym and you'll still keep high levels of ketones (see /r/ketogains protocol) 3. See the instagram account I linked. 4. See what they do for epilepsy (hint: they kinda drink oil because they need 90%) The beef fat trimmings are still kinda oil, just in nicer form and nicer taste. Literally eat 0.5kg-1kg of beef fat trimmings a day (they get 1/4 size after cooking)

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago

> Not everybody is a body builder (they do the gain/cut thing). Neither am I. I do modest workouts so I don’t lose muscle on keto, but it’s mostly to manage type 2 diabetes and lose body fat (which, again, is to manage the diabetes and maybe get some of my insulin sensitivity back). > > 2) fix your sleep hygiene ASAP > This and your other points should be unrelated to the diet. But turns out, they are. The human organism is a complex thing, and it turns out that if your circadian clock and eating habits are out of sync, you’re royally screwed. Sleep is not an afterthought, it kinda all starts with it.