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I know I will probably be down-modded for this, but I will add my $0.02 here. The more I travel and live overseas, the more I think the US is a lousy place for
by einhverfr 15y ago
I know I will probably be down-modded for this, but I will add my $0.02 here.
The more I travel and live overseas, the more I think the US is a lousy place for startups.
Why? The regulatory climate in the US is fairly anti-small-business. Taxes are high but worse, they are complicated. The tax system is designed around the idea that people get paid fixed amounts. Those with variable incomes or the self-employed have a horrible time with estimated quarterly taxes esp if income fluctuates significantly.
Compare this with Singapore: For the wealthiest, the taxes approach 30% of income and instead of a tax bracket system, you have a series of compounding taxes (something like 5% of income over 40k + 5 % of income over 50k etc). Every additional dollar you make puts something in your pocket. No nasty "I moved up a tax bracket and so I took home less this year!" surprises. Additionally the taxes aren't owed in the year assessed. They are owed the following year, and the government accepts monthly payments on those. Your income has to fluctuate terribly before that can be the end of it.
Most other countries outside the US and Western Europe have much simpler tax codes, and the codes are more friendly towards small businesses (and even Western Europe is more friendly towards small businesses). In the US, however, multinational corporations can use the complexity to avoid paying taxes at all, and small businesses are heavily burdened.
When you add new laws like PPACA, things just get worse. PPACA is based on the idea that employers are the primary means of supplying health insurance, so when you are trying to hire your first few employees, you are going to have to get an expensive plan since you can't likely get into the larger pools, but more to the point, this is the case even if you don't have to offer the insurance by law, since if you don't offer it, your employee has to buy it him/herself. Since health care in the US is phenominally expensive, this is a dramatic drag on startups (compare the cost of having a baby in the US to anywhere else in the world and explain why it costs so much to me here. It's not just the standard of care. It's because our system is broken and geared towards an ecosystem of big businesses making a ton of money off it, and the PPACA makes this worse, not better).
Add to this the fact that the economic downturn has not created a major glut of high tech workers (in fact, quite the opposite), and it's just not the place I would say to work with right now.
So my list of countries to startup businesses in right now include:
Singapore
Colombia
Malaysia
Indonesia
Ecuador
Chile
Ghana
These countries all have issues of their own but aside from Singapore, one thing they all have in common is a surplus of educated people, good education systems, and sufficient infrastructure. They also have some semblance of stability (even Colombia is slowly getting there).
I don't think one is going to see superstars like Facebook coming from any of these countries. However I do think one will see a lot of good, solid businesses that will grow well, and prosper.
- wyclif 15y agoRegarding insurance: I'm an American who was laid off my job after the property market collapsed (I was in civil engineering) and I got married. My wife got pregnant a year later, and we had no insurance. Fortunately, my wife is from the Philippines and we had the baby there. I paid for her care out of pocket. She received good quality care and the baby is healthy and happy. Having the baby in the US would have bankrupted me at the time.
- einhverfr 15y agoTwo of my three kids were born in Indonesia for that same reason. The one that was born in the US, even with Insurance, left us with medical bills we were paying for years.
- hello_moto 15y agoInsurance in US and Canada are different than that of Indonesia. In US/CA, certain type of insurances == loan. Insurance companies also try hard not to pay you either due to the number of scams or just trying to scam you. In Indonesia, insurance is actually what insurance should be: someone will pay your liabilities, without too much hassle or questions. Also, depending on your pocket money, in Indonesia, you can get the medium-to-best quality of health care. In US/CA, for whatever reason, I heard more horror stories when it comes to "visiting specialists" (be it long multi months queue, or left with debt)
- einhverfr 15y agoOut of pocket no more than $3000 for some of the best OB/GYN's and a standard labor. Maybe $1k more for a C section. Also in the case of the kid born in the US, the insurance did pay what they said they would. We still ended up with around $10k in debt for a relatively uncomplicated pregnancy and childbirth. Part of the problem though is that US health care is expensive. It's not just insurance. It's not just the idea that single payer would be cheaper (I am not sure it would necessarily be--- the devil is in the details), but rather it is the fact that everything is stacked against the consumer, against the doctor as an individual, and towards the direction of big companies (big pharma, insurance, textbook publishers, etc). The only thing a single payer system brings to the table (and most such systems are a world away from anything the US would consider even if such a plan was on the table---- for example, Canada has separate systems per province, and in Denmark everything is run by local governments) is some counterbalance by the collective consumers against such a model. To give you an idea of how much more expensive it is in the US than in anywhere else, if medical care cost the same in the US as it did in Canada or the UK, what the government currently spends (on government employees, on the VA, on Medicare and Medicaid) would be enough to fully cover every American. So why is it so expensive? Could it be monopoly/oligopoly interests? Conspiracies against market transparency on the part of medical service providers and insurers? Regulatory games? All of the above? I suggest it is, in fact, all of the above.