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For some reason, you forget the usual disclaimer "Ukraine says" and instead state it as a fact. It's hard to take them at face value similarly to their Russian

by fuoqi 3y ago

For some reason, you forget the usual disclaimer "Ukraine says" and instead state it as a fact. It's hard to take them at face value similarly to their Russian counterparts. Also the "minor" claim is also maid by an interested party. If it was just a paint job, I think they would've preferred to simply stay silent on the matter. With available objective data we know that two explosions have happened on the ground level and that 2 launched Patriot missiles have failed, which is a fairly high value.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
> we know that two explosions have happened on the ground level Site a source for that please. Do you think that when you "down" a hypersonic missile the debris fall harmlessly to the ground or do they continue moving?
- fuoqi 3y ago
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  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
    At this distance I can't even tell that they're explosions, let alone Patriot batteries (there weren't only Patriot systems here). I'm sorry but that is not objective proof of anything.
    - fuoqi 3y ago
      >At this distance I can't even tell that they're explosions Sure, it could've been swamp gas from a weather balloon trapped in a thermal pocket, which has reflected the light from Venus.
      - omniglottal 3y ago
        Or perhaps the corroberated evidence is valid and you're simply wasting people's time with unqualified and unbased doubts.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> you forget the usual disclaimer "Ukraine says" and instead state it as a fact It’s been corroborated by the U.S. and allies [1]. The Kremlin hasn’t disputed the charge. (The U.S. also said a PATRIOT battery was damaged while Kyiv claimed no such thing. As others have speculated, this was probably a radar unit that was targeted and damaged.) [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/patriot-kill-shot-impressive-russian-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-missile-experts-2023-5?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/patriot-kill-shot-impressive...

by fuoqi 3y ago

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

> we know that two explosions have happened on the ground level Site a source for that please. Do you think that when you "down" a hypersonic missile the debris fall harmlessly to the ground or do they continue moving?

fuoqi 3y ago
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  At this distance I can't even tell that they're explosions, let alone Patriot batteries (there weren't only Patriot systems here). I'm sorry but that is not objective proof of anything.
  - fuoqi 3y ago
    >At this distance I can't even tell that they're explosions Sure, it could've been swamp gas from a weather balloon trapped in a thermal pocket, which has reflected the light from Venus.
    - omniglottal 3y ago
      Or perhaps the corroberated evidence is valid and you're simply wasting people's time with unqualified and unbased doubts.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> you forget the usual disclaimer "Ukraine says" and instead state it as a fact It’s been corroborated by the U.S. and allies [1]. The Kremlin hasn’t disputed the charge. (The U.S. also said a PATRIOT battery was damaged while Kyiv claimed no such thing. As others have speculated, this was probably a radar unit that was targeted and damaged.) [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/patriot-kill-shot-impressive-russian-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-missile-experts-2023-5?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/patriot-kill-shot-impressive...