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One of the examples in the readme is this Counting number of files /Users/kchan> (cd quicklisp/local-projects/unix-in-lisp) /Users/kchan/quicklisp/loc

by all2 3y ago

One of the examples in the readme is this Counting number of files /Users/kchan> (cd quicklisp/local-projects/unix-in-lisp) /Users/kchan/quicklisp/local-projects/unix-in-lisp> (pipe (wc -l) (ls)) 9 Personally, I would want the top level parens to be implicit so I could write /Users/kchan> cd quicklisp/local-projects/unix-in-lisp /Users/kchan/quicklisp/local-projects/unix-in-lisp> This removes what could be trivial, but for a basic `cd`, I don't want to have to remember parens every time. Optionally having those parens would be nice for when they're needed, but for basic use-cases I'd rather not.

kscarlet 3y ago
Author here! I've considered this before, but there are problems such as what does a single atom mean: Does test.sh run test.sh or returns the content of test.sh? I am a heavy Lisper myself so I end up choosing consistency over one less keystroke (I have paredit, so the difference between (ls) vs ls is just one keystroke), but I could be biased.
- all2 3y ago
  That's a fair point. Consider that I have very little experience with any kind of Lisp beyond Scheme, and even that is very limited. I was coming at this recommendation from the perspective of a heavy command line user.
- jdougan 3y ago
  would it be hard to modify the readline mechanism to show the "implicit" parens and push them apart as you type?
- dmb2 3y ago
  Do you use this as a daily driver? I got addicted to evil-mode at some point and haven’t squared the circle of modal s-expression editing that this inevitably surfaces. At least readline respecting programs reward my early emacs years.
  - kscarlet 3y ago
    Yes I use it daily. I never squared the circle of modal editing and use mostly vanilla Emacs bindings (and paredit) :) Would love to hear feedback from evil-mode user. Just in case I port it to vim in the future.
  - fiddlerwoaroof 3y ago
    I use these keys every day for just about every sort of balanced delimiter manipulation I do in any language: https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/dotfiles/blob/eff889f0b74956c9536bffffb9b71d9f65853f13/emacs.d/lisp/configurations/evil-conf.el#L67 https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/dotfiles/blob/eff889f0b749... A little below I bind this key map to the “,” prefix and I’ve found my layout of paredit commands pretty ergonomic to use long-term.

by all2 3y ago

kscarlet 3y ago

Author here! I've considered this before, but there are problems such as what does a single atom mean: Does test.sh run test.sh or returns the content of test.sh? I am a heavy Lisper myself so I end up choosing consistency over one less keystroke (I have paredit, so the difference between (ls) vs ls is just one keystroke), but I could be biased.

all2 3y ago
That's a fair point. Consider that I have very little experience with any kind of Lisp beyond Scheme, and even that is very limited. I was coming at this recommendation from the perspective of a heavy command line user.
jdougan 3y ago
would it be hard to modify the readline mechanism to show the "implicit" parens and push them apart as you type?
dmb2 3y ago
Do you use this as a daily driver? I got addicted to evil-mode at some point and haven’t squared the circle of modal s-expression editing that this inevitably surfaces. At least readline respecting programs reward my early emacs years.
- kscarlet 3y ago
  Yes I use it daily. I never squared the circle of modal editing and use mostly vanilla Emacs bindings (and paredit) :) Would love to hear feedback from evil-mode user. Just in case I port it to vim in the future.
- fiddlerwoaroof 3y ago
  I use these keys every day for just about every sort of balanced delimiter manipulation I do in any language: https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/dotfiles/blob/eff889f0b74956c9536bffffb9b71d9f65853f13/emacs.d/lisp/configurations/evil-conf.el#L67 https://github.com/fiddlerwoaroof/dotfiles/blob/eff889f0b749... A little below I bind this key map to the “,” prefix and I’ve found my layout of paredit commands pretty ergonomic to use long-term.