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Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing, but it's kind of funny you mention that in the context of World of Goo, a game that famously was a gigantic hit, extremely

Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing, but it's kind of funny you mention that in the context of World of Goo, a game that famously was a gigantic hit, extremely affordable, made with love by two indy devs… and had a 90% piracy rate https://www.destructoid.com/wankers-world-of-goo-has-a-90-piracy-rate/ https://www.destructoid.com/wankers-world-of-goo-has-a-90-pi...

COGlory 3y ago
There's no data for that 90% claim.
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  There presumably was behind the dead link, see https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82 The original claim was based on the number of IPs that submitted to the leaderboard compared to the number of games sold.
  - iSnow 3y ago
    But if it's IP-based, it's completely unreliable. My home DSL gets a new IP# every 24h and I know that is not uncommon in Europe at least. I bought it both for Mac and iOS, and I would be responsible for hundreds of false-positive "pirated installs" as I played it a long time.
    - boomboomsubban 3y ago
      The link addresses that by saying 76% of player IDs only connected from 1 IP. So the 90% is high, but not by a massive amount.
- vanderZwan 3y ago
  As the other comment pointed out, there is. The lack of DRM meant that anyone could submit to the leaderboard. Which, to me at least, sounds like it should be one of the more reliable estimates out there all things considered.
rebolek 3y ago
I had a pirated version on PC but it was such a great game I bought it for Wii as it was much more fun to play it there. So piracy != lost sales.
- vanderZwan 3y ago
  Sorry, my bad: the devs weren't actually mad about this, the journalist writing about it was. In another article[0] the devs state: > "by the way, just in case it’s not 100% clear, we’re not angry about piracy, we still think that DRM is a waste of time and money, we don’t think that we’re losing sales due to piracy, and we have no intention of trying to fight it." [0] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82

COGlory 3y ago

There's no data for that 90% claim.

boomboomsubban 3y ago
There presumably was behind the dead link, see https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82 The original claim was based on the number of IPs that submitted to the leaderboard compared to the number of games sold.
- iSnow 3y ago
  But if it's IP-based, it's completely unreliable. My home DSL gets a new IP# every 24h and I know that is not uncommon in Europe at least. I bought it both for Mac and iOS, and I would be responsible for hundreds of false-positive "pirated installs" as I played it a long time.
  - boomboomsubban 3y ago
    The link addresses that by saying 76% of player IDs only connected from 1 IP. So the 90% is high, but not by a massive amount.
vanderZwan 3y ago
As the other comment pointed out, there is. The lack of DRM meant that anyone could submit to the leaderboard. Which, to me at least, sounds like it should be one of the more reliable estimates out there all things considered.

rebolek 3y ago

I had a pirated version on PC but it was such a great game I bought it for Wii as it was much more fun to play it there. So piracy != lost sales.

vanderZwan 3y ago
Sorry, my bad: the devs weren't actually mad about this, the journalist writing about it was. In another article[0] the devs state: > "by the way, just in case it’s not 100% clear, we’re not angry about piracy, we still think that DRM is a waste of time and money, we don’t think that we’re losing sales due to piracy, and we have no intention of trying to fight it." [0] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/world-of-goo-piracy-rate-82