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> I haven't seen these posts. Do you have an example handy? here's one from earlier in the week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36000459 https://news.yco
by blibble 3y ago
> I haven't seen these posts. Do you have an example handy?
here's one from earlier in the week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36000459 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36000459
they're pretty common, here's another one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35617773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35617773
- wolverine876 3y agoIn the GGP you wrote, > often there's posts on HN about how the UK and all other Western European countries are totalitarian because they don't have unrestricted free speech I don't see that in the comments you cite - nothing related to totaliterianism, unrestricted free speech, or comparison to the US. The comments just look like critiques of some laws related to speech, similar to critiques of US laws. Maybe I misunderstand.
- Freedom2 3y agoI don't have a source handy, I can find one later if you desire. During Melbourne's lockdowns there was consistent criticism from US based commenters about the lack of freedoms in Australia. edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28651811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28651811 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28523358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28523358 (this entire comment section, probably: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28522599 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28522599) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35105640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35105640
- heywhatupboys 3y agofunnily enough, the USA has much less protective laws against self incrimination than e.g. Denmark. In Denmark, you, as charged, may lie on the stand however much you please.
- brewdad 3y agoIn the US you just have to shut up. It also saves you from getting caught in a lie.
- goodpoint 3y agoThe astonishing amount of people incarcerated without a process tells a different story.
- robertlagrant 3y agoHow many are incarcerated without a process?
- wolverine876 3y agoI'm not the GP, but here are some ways: Something like 95% of criminal cases are resolved with plea deals and not trials, and legal representation from public defenders has very limited resources. Cash bail results in many people imprisoned without trial: After arrest, the court requires bail. Poor people can't afford it, so they are jailed until trial, which can be over a year. The impacts go beyond the (very serious) loss of freedom: They lose jobs, their family loses income, dependents (children, elderly) lose caregivers.
- Meph504 3y agoFirstly, though I see the concept behind cash bail I don't agree with it. But people has a misconception of the likely result of removing it. Judges now, don't need or required to use cash bails, they choose to, they can release people without cash bail now. either into the person's own recognizance, or even into the care of others. If a judge doesn't feel the person is likely to return to their following court date, and they can't leverage financial burden as a means to insure it, they are likely just to forego the process and hold them.
- yupyup54133 3y agoIn California "at least 1,317 people have been waiting in county jails for more than 3 years. For 332 of them, it’s been longer than 5 years." Source: https://calmatters.org/justice/2021/03/waiting-for-justice/ https://calmatters.org/justice/2021/03/waiting-for-justice/
- vintermann 3y agoOnly in your own defense or in defense of your closest loved ones, I believe. If it's like in Norway.
- heywhatupboys 3y agoyea, against self incrimination, as mentioned