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Maybe, but he sounds self-entitled. Those are the worst type of people. I don't like either of the attitudes in the post. I would never work for the poster and

Maybe, but he sounds self-entitled. Those are the worst type of people. I don't like either of the attitudes in the post. I would never work for the poster and I would never hire the applicant.

nanijoe 18y ago
If my potential employer has a problem with money being my motivation, scratch my name from the interview list. IF I really wanted to work for slave wages, there is a McDonalds on every street corner
- auston 18y ago
  To be clear: We don't care if money is your motivation, it is ours as well, we simply don't want money to be your ONLY motivation.
  - alaskamiller 18y ago
    From looking at their job posting and their website it sure gave me a good impression of how great they are... Wait, no, see they (I'm assuming it's you now) didn't. They didn't explain why it is they offer something beyond money as an incentive to work for them. They don't talk about their passion, office situation, their work ethic, or what it is they're working on. The job posting itself was just bland and generic, akin to the kind of cattle call you find on craigslist. It sounds more like the LeadLog is the one exhibiting self-entitlement here. How dare they get people that only cares about being paid!
    - auston 18y ago
      Ha. Everyone here encourages thinking that differs from ours. I suppose we are generic in the job posting (I really appreciate the feedback) and again, as I stated, we're trying to find someone who is looking for more than just money, someone looking for place to work where they fit in and feel at home. If you were trying to meet a decent girl with values, would you go around waving $100 bills and wearing diamond pendants? We're not trying to flash around our new funding and put emphasis on our fancy office and wii and ping pong table and couch and full kitchen. We're trying to find someone who would be looking at this as an opportunity, someone with ambition and not just a need for an inflated paycheck until the start up dies.
      - alaskamiller 18y ago
        I kind of wish you would stop using that girlfriend analogy. If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist. You're looking for an employee -- since you're not going to give them founder status -- and as such you simply want someone that exhibits more passion so that you can feel good about paying them. Or, in my cynical view, you want to exploit somebody that's willing to work more for what you're paying them for,hence the "options". There's nothing wrong with that kind of behavior, as a business you do have to look for ways to maximize your cash and people like that do exist. The young-gogetters that are extremely talented and looking to work hard to impress and too inexperienced to know their true market value. But the chances of finding someone like that is so rare, and considering other companies pay premium for something like that you would be lucky. And in your process you're going to end up with a lot of submissions from a wide variety of people. That's just how the cookies crumbles. This post doesn't really help with anything though...
        iloveyouocean 18y ago
        "If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist." Do you realize that these sights encompass 10s of millions of people? What is your bar for "decent"? I can only assume you would choose to use http://flowmingle.com http://flowmingle.com instead.
        fallentimes 18y ago
        He probably just prefers the real life/in person thing. Me too.
        axod 18y ago
        "sights". Are we all going for the "Most grammar/spelling mistakes in a comments page" world record here?
        alaskamiller 18y ago
- fallentimes 18y ago
  Money for motivation and "slave wages" are two very different things. And if you live in the States, you're more than likely living like a King (compared to people in poor countries). Hell, I worked solely for money at my first job out of college, but I would have never told them that before even interviewing.

Maybe, but he sounds self-entitled. Those are the worst type of people. I don't like either of the attitudes in the post. I would never work for the poster and I would never hire the applicant.

nanijoe 18y ago

If my potential employer has a problem with money being my motivation, scratch my name from the interview list. IF I really wanted to work for slave wages, there is a McDonalds on every street corner

auston 18y ago
To be clear: We don't care if money is your motivation, it is ours as well, we simply don't want money to be your ONLY motivation.
- alaskamiller 18y ago
  From looking at their job posting and their website it sure gave me a good impression of how great they are... Wait, no, see they (I'm assuming it's you now) didn't. They didn't explain why it is they offer something beyond money as an incentive to work for them. They don't talk about their passion, office situation, their work ethic, or what it is they're working on. The job posting itself was just bland and generic, akin to the kind of cattle call you find on craigslist. It sounds more like the LeadLog is the one exhibiting self-entitlement here. How dare they get people that only cares about being paid!
  - auston 18y ago
    Ha. Everyone here encourages thinking that differs from ours. I suppose we are generic in the job posting (I really appreciate the feedback) and again, as I stated, we're trying to find someone who is looking for more than just money, someone looking for place to work where they fit in and feel at home. If you were trying to meet a decent girl with values, would you go around waving $100 bills and wearing diamond pendants? We're not trying to flash around our new funding and put emphasis on our fancy office and wii and ping pong table and couch and full kitchen. We're trying to find someone who would be looking at this as an opportunity, someone with ambition and not just a need for an inflated paycheck until the start up dies.
    - alaskamiller 18y ago
      I kind of wish you would stop using that girlfriend analogy. If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist. You're looking for an employee -- since you're not going to give them founder status -- and as such you simply want someone that exhibits more passion so that you can feel good about paying them. Or, in my cynical view, you want to exploit somebody that's willing to work more for what you're paying them for,hence the "options". There's nothing wrong with that kind of behavior, as a business you do have to look for ways to maximize your cash and people like that do exist. The young-gogetters that are extremely talented and looking to work hard to impress and too inexperienced to know their true market value. But the chances of finding someone like that is so rare, and considering other companies pay premium for something like that you would be lucky. And in your process you're going to end up with a lot of submissions from a wide variety of people. That's just how the cookies crumbles. This post doesn't really help with anything though...
      - iloveyouocean 18y ago
        "If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist." Do you realize that these sights encompass 10s of millions of people? What is your bar for "decent"? I can only assume you would choose to use http://flowmingle.com http://flowmingle.com instead.
        fallentimes 18y ago
        He probably just prefers the real life/in person thing. Me too.
        axod 18y ago
        "sights". Are we all going for the "Most grammar/spelling mistakes in a comments page" world record here?
        alaskamiller 18y ago
fallentimes 18y ago
Money for motivation and "slave wages" are two very different things. And if you live in the States, you're more than likely living like a King (compared to people in poor countries). Hell, I worked solely for money at my first job out of college, but I would have never told them that before even interviewing.