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This is hard to write, but I was subjected to involuntary treatment. It ruined my life. And I know I am not the only one. While Deboer talks about involuntary

by Gunax 3y ago

This is hard to write, but I was subjected to involuntary treatment. It ruined my life. And I know I am not the only one. While Deboer talks about involuntary treatment getting harder, this is right or qrong depending on how you measure it. We are seeing far more interaction with mental services. In Florida, the rate of Baker act has surged 121% [1]. So why the discrepancy? There are really different cohorts. Laws are being created around the psychotic homeless population. But most people interacting with mental health and even most people forced into institutions are not these things. Think anorexics and wrist-cutters, not psychos with knives. [1] https://www.theledger.com/story/news/regional/2021/11/28/mental-health-law-enforcement-officers-baker-acting-people-alarming-rates-polk-county-florida/8592505002/ https://www.theledger.com/story/news/regional/2021/11/28/men...

Reubend 3y ago
I agree, and while I don't have any real evidence of this, my suspicion is that dangerous drug use is contributing to vastly higher rates of mental illness in our society. There have been a few articles speculating that new manufacturing methods for methamphetamine are inducing psychoses in a lot of people: https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-system-meth-use-portland-methamphetamine/ https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-... And I wouldn't be surprised if new drugs like fentanyl cut with traq and other substances are contributing to this situation as well: https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/horrific-new-street-drug-tranq-found-s-f-17787084.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/horrific-new-street-d... You make the great point that there are several different cohorts involved here, and I think that one of the biggest differentiators there is around illegal drug use.

by Gunax 3y ago

Reubend 3y ago

I agree, and while I don't have any real evidence of this, my suspicion is that dangerous drug use is contributing to vastly higher rates of mental illness in our society. There have been a few articles speculating that new manufacturing methods for methamphetamine are inducing psychoses in a lot of people: https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-system-meth-use-portland-methamphetamine/ https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-... And I wouldn't be surprised if new drugs like fentanyl cut with traq and other substances are contributing to this situation as well: https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/horrific-new-street-drug-tranq-found-s-f-17787084.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/horrific-new-street-d... You make the great point that there are several different cohorts involved here, and I think that one of the biggest differentiators there is around illegal drug use.