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BMW releases all-electric 5-series

31 points by gautamcgoel 3y ago

expertentipp 3y ago
Still no feature preventing BMW drivers from tailing behind other cars 2-3m at high speeds.
- melx 3y ago
  No automatic blinkers either.
  - jamexcb 3y ago
    That’s a subscription!
  - rad_gruchalski 3y ago
    Indicators in all electric vehicles consume unnecessary energy. No indicators = extended range.
- smileysteve 3y ago
  Drafting increases the i5's range. They're secretly climate advocates.
- parl_match 3y ago
  Get out of the fast lane then ;) Nobody buys a bmw to go the speed limit and think about church.
  - expertentipp 3y ago
    I mean tailing a car driving at maximum allowed speed, while the car in front is overtaking a truck. The BMW could e.g. discharge the battery to electrocute the driver while situation like this is detected.
rad_gruchalski 3y ago
No touring models. I wonder how long until they release a touring EV.
- pedalpete 3y ago
  It's on the way. Should be announced before the end of the year. Rumor is they're going to do an M version of the touring to compete with the RS6. I've got an F11 535i touring. Absolutely love it, and would love to go electric. Tesla stopped selling the right hand drive version of the S, which is opening a door for other brands in the higher-end.
TheJoeMan 3y ago
They really missed an opportunity to make the model naming make sense. The “i” in 530i means internal combustion. Why not call it the BMW 530e?
- gammajmp 3y ago
  The 530e is a plug-in hybrid.
  - thisarticle 3y ago
    530ev
    - gammajmp 3y ago
      That would work. They've been using the i prefix for a while though. I still have fond memories of the first time I saw an i8 in person. It really looked like something from the future.
- Swenrekcah 3y ago
  The i stands for injection, I believe to signify direct injection.
  - kazinator 3y ago
    It could be repurposed for electric current.
delta_p_delta_x 3y ago
Direct link to BMW press release[1]. Meh, not a fan. The LCI G30[2] is, in my opinion, amongst the best-looking 5-series ever released. This, the G60, is a significant downgrade, both in terms of exterior looks, and interior ergonomics. The new 5- (and 7-series, for that matter) have bonnets that remind me of American trucks and SUVs, which I detest; there's no curve, no elegance at all. Compare the side profiles of the LCI G30, and the G60[3,4]. Obviously the electrification is good, and as for iDrive 8.5, I am ambivalent, leaning on slightly negative—its implementation looks rubbish, essentially just a giant ultra-ultra-wide display bolted onto a dashboard[5] with no real thought of driver-facing ergonomics, but the software itself is not too bad, considering the competition. More importantly, BMW is using the same platform for its ICE and fully-electric products, unlike Mercedes, Audi, or Volvo. This leads to some weird compromises, like transmission tunnels in a fully-electric car, and pretty bad floor clearance. I test-drove (and test-rear-passengered?) an i4 M50, and the leg clearance is... bad. I'm not even tall (~1.7 m), and the distance between the floor and the seat was so short, my legs stuck out a solid 20-30 cm above the seat. I am again, so glad we own a BMW with iDrive 7 instead. [1]: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0416261EN/the-new-bmw-5-series-sedan https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T041626... [2]: https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2021-bmw-5-series-facelift-lci.jpg https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2021-bmw-... [3]: https://images.wapcar.my/file1/4697fb7c5a524192bbf9350a84ebfaf5_800.jpg https://images.wapcar.my/file1/4697fb7c5a524192bbf9350a84ebf... [4]: https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505080/P90505080-the-new-bmw-i5-edrive40-in-the-studio-still-shot-05-2023-600px.jpg https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505080/P90... [5]: https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505743/P90505743-the-new-bmw-5-series-sedan-infographic-05-2023-2121px.jpg https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505743/P90...
- jen20 3y ago
  Anecdotally, I have one of each, and the software in iDrive 8 is _much_ better. I do not understand the serious regression in both with respect to screen placement vs my 2009 model though, where there is a sun shield and no touch screen.
justinclift 3y ago
https://archive.is/bxAUt https://archive.is/bxAUt
gambiting 3y ago
I'm glad it's looking somewhat normal(I'd risk saying it looks good, at least from the front), the recent 4-series with the molerat front, the XM and the iX have been among the worst looking vehicles I have ever seen(on the outside at least, the insides are decent).

31 points by gautamcgoel 3y ago

expertentipp 3y ago

Still no feature preventing BMW drivers from tailing behind other cars 2-3m at high speeds.

melx 3y ago
No automatic blinkers either.
- jamexcb 3y ago
  That’s a subscription!
- rad_gruchalski 3y ago
  Indicators in all electric vehicles consume unnecessary energy. No indicators = extended range.
smileysteve 3y ago
Drafting increases the i5's range. They're secretly climate advocates.
parl_match 3y ago
Get out of the fast lane then ;) Nobody buys a bmw to go the speed limit and think about church.
- expertentipp 3y ago
  I mean tailing a car driving at maximum allowed speed, while the car in front is overtaking a truck. The BMW could e.g. discharge the battery to electrocute the driver while situation like this is detected.

rad_gruchalski 3y ago

No touring models. I wonder how long until they release a touring EV.

pedalpete 3y ago
It's on the way. Should be announced before the end of the year. Rumor is they're going to do an M version of the touring to compete with the RS6. I've got an F11 535i touring. Absolutely love it, and would love to go electric. Tesla stopped selling the right hand drive version of the S, which is opening a door for other brands in the higher-end.

TheJoeMan 3y ago

They really missed an opportunity to make the model naming make sense. The “i” in 530i means internal combustion. Why not call it the BMW 530e?

gammajmp 3y ago
The 530e is a plug-in hybrid.
- thisarticle 3y ago
  530ev
  - gammajmp 3y ago
    That would work. They've been using the i prefix for a while though. I still have fond memories of the first time I saw an i8 in person. It really looked like something from the future.
Swenrekcah 3y ago
The i stands for injection, I believe to signify direct injection.
- kazinator 3y ago
  It could be repurposed for electric current.

delta_p_delta_x 3y ago

Direct link to BMW press release[1]. Meh, not a fan. The LCI G30[2] is, in my opinion, amongst the best-looking 5-series ever released. This, the G60, is a significant downgrade, both in terms of exterior looks, and interior ergonomics. The new 5- (and 7-series, for that matter) have bonnets that remind me of American trucks and SUVs, which I detest; there's no curve, no elegance at all. Compare the side profiles of the LCI G30, and the G60[3,4]. Obviously the electrification is good, and as for iDrive 8.5, I am ambivalent, leaning on slightly negative—its implementation looks rubbish, essentially just a giant ultra-ultra-wide display bolted onto a dashboard[5] with no real thought of driver-facing ergonomics, but the software itself is not too bad, considering the competition. More importantly, BMW is using the same platform for its ICE and fully-electric products, unlike Mercedes, Audi, or Volvo. This leads to some weird compromises, like transmission tunnels in a fully-electric car, and pretty bad floor clearance. I test-drove (and test-rear-passengered?) an i4 M50, and the leg clearance is... bad. I'm not even tall (~1.7 m), and the distance between the floor and the seat was so short, my legs stuck out a solid 20-30 cm above the seat. I am again, so glad we own a BMW with iDrive 7 instead. [1]: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0416261EN/the-new-bmw-5-series-sedan https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T041626... [2]: https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2021-bmw-5-series-facelift-lci.jpg https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2021-bmw-... [3]: https://images.wapcar.my/file1/4697fb7c5a524192bbf9350a84ebfaf5_800.jpg https://images.wapcar.my/file1/4697fb7c5a524192bbf9350a84ebf... [4]: https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505080/P90505080-the-new-bmw-i5-edrive40-in-the-studio-still-shot-05-2023-600px.jpg https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505080/P90... [5]: https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505743/P90505743-the-new-bmw-5-series-sedan-infographic-05-2023-2121px.jpg https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/202305/P90505743/P90...

jen20 3y ago
Anecdotally, I have one of each, and the software in iDrive 8 is _much_ better. I do not understand the serious regression in both with respect to screen placement vs my 2009 model though, where there is a sun shield and no touch screen.

justinclift 3y ago

https://archive.is/bxAUt https://archive.is/bxAUt

gambiting 3y ago

I'm glad it's looking somewhat normal(I'd risk saying it looks good, at least from the front), the recent 4-series with the molerat front, the XM and the iX have been among the worst looking vehicles I have ever seen(on the outside at least, the insides are decent).