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Modern backup would simply state “API keys and settings are here:”, and a link to collaboration platform closed after 3 years of existence.

jandrese 3y ago
Hey, it's the cloud. Backups are "someone else's problem". That is until they are your problem, then you're up a creek.
- tivert 3y ago
  > Hey, it's the cloud. Backups are "someone else's problem". That is until they are your problem, then you're up a creek. The FSF used to sell these wonderful stickers that said "There is not cloud. It's just someone else's computer."
  - isaidthis 3y ago
    The sticker: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/stickers/thereisnocloud.svg https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/stickers/thereisnocloud.svg "Stickers from various FSF campaigns - Print out copies of our stickers for your own uses, local conferences and more." https://www.fsf.org/resources/stickers https://www.fsf.org/resources/stickers
ilyt 3y ago
Honestly backup space is weirdly sparse for anything on enterprise scale. For anything more than few machines there is bacula/bareos (that pretends everything is tape with mostly miserable results), backuppc (that pretends tapes are not a thing, with miserable results), and that's about it, everything else seems to be point-to-point backups only with no real central management.
- somat 3y ago
  You can add amanda to the "pretends everything is tape with mostly miserable results" list.
- dabiged 3y ago
  Are talking about open source only? Because there are loads of options available. Veritas has two products (netbackup and backupexec). There is also commvault, veeam, ibm spectrum protect and hp data protector. Admittedly only netbackup and commvault are what I would truly call enterprise, but your options are certainly not limited.
  - whatusername 3y ago
    As someone who used to administer an ADSM server back a long time ago -- I'm curious what the gap between spectrum protect or whatever it's called now and commvault/netbackup? I've haven't really looked at that space for at least a decade.

jandrese 3y ago

Hey, it's the cloud. Backups are "someone else's problem". That is until they are your problem, then you're up a creek.

tivert 3y ago
> Hey, it's the cloud. Backups are "someone else's problem". That is until they are your problem, then you're up a creek. The FSF used to sell these wonderful stickers that said "There is not cloud. It's just someone else's computer."
- isaidthis 3y ago
  The sticker: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/stickers/thereisnocloud.svg https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/stickers/thereisnocloud.svg "Stickers from various FSF campaigns - Print out copies of our stickers for your own uses, local conferences and more." https://www.fsf.org/resources/stickers https://www.fsf.org/resources/stickers

ilyt 3y ago

Honestly backup space is weirdly sparse for anything on enterprise scale. For anything more than few machines there is bacula/bareos (that pretends everything is tape with mostly miserable results), backuppc (that pretends tapes are not a thing, with miserable results), and that's about it, everything else seems to be point-to-point backups only with no real central management.

somat 3y ago
You can add amanda to the "pretends everything is tape with mostly miserable results" list.
dabiged 3y ago
Are talking about open source only? Because there are loads of options available. Veritas has two products (netbackup and backupexec). There is also commvault, veeam, ibm spectrum protect and hp data protector. Admittedly only netbackup and commvault are what I would truly call enterprise, but your options are certainly not limited.
- whatusername 3y ago
  As someone who used to administer an ADSM server back a long time ago -- I'm curious what the gap between spectrum protect or whatever it's called now and commvault/netbackup? I've haven't really looked at that space for at least a decade.