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This may or may not qualify for you: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-report-shows-department-of-homeland-security-gathered-intel-on-portland-black-lives

This may or may not qualify for you: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-report-shows-department-of-homeland-security-gathered-intel-on-portland-black-lives-matter-protestors https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-report-shows-departm... Here’s why it counts for me. It’s not scary new tech, but it is a case that shows that police departments will be as aggressive as possible about collecting data. This isn’t “cops are bad.” Most of us would do the same thing, as evidenced by the endless thirst for data that most tech companies have. When there’s a way to learn more about something, humans tend to lean into it rather than worrying about inchoate potential misuse.

EA-3167 3y ago
I feel like I'm not getting my point across very well. I'm not skeptical that law enforcement will seek to gather all of the info it can, just like the NSA does, I'm asking where the dystopian hellscape is as a result of this. Where are the comedians being banned like they are in China? Where is the social credit score? Where are the disappearances? Everyone seems to be offering, "Think of how bad it could be," but most of their examples center on right wing politics rather than technology.
- BryantD 3y ago
  Okay, that’s fair —- thanks for clarifying! My feeling is that once you start compiling this data in a formal way, you’ve taken a significant step towards the dystopian events you’re describing. I agree that the ability to do a thing is not the same as the thing happening. However, exactly as I try and remove the ability to make manual mistakes from my deployment pipelines, I also think it’s good to restrict the ability to impose dystopian rules. But that is a really big topic and I am not expecting you to say “oh yeah you’re right” just because I made a dubious analogy. I appreciate that you took the time to clarify.
  - EA-3167 3y ago
    The feeling is mutual, it's good to see that there's still the possibility of mutually respectful discussion on this topic. Thank you.

EA-3167 3y ago

I feel like I'm not getting my point across very well. I'm not skeptical that law enforcement will seek to gather all of the info it can, just like the NSA does, I'm asking where the dystopian hellscape is as a result of this. Where are the comedians being banned like they are in China? Where is the social credit score? Where are the disappearances? Everyone seems to be offering, "Think of how bad it could be," but most of their examples center on right wing politics rather than technology.

BryantD 3y ago
Okay, that’s fair —- thanks for clarifying! My feeling is that once you start compiling this data in a formal way, you’ve taken a significant step towards the dystopian events you’re describing. I agree that the ability to do a thing is not the same as the thing happening. However, exactly as I try and remove the ability to make manual mistakes from my deployment pipelines, I also think it’s good to restrict the ability to impose dystopian rules. But that is a really big topic and I am not expecting you to say “oh yeah you’re right” just because I made a dubious analogy. I appreciate that you took the time to clarify.
- EA-3167 3y ago
  The feeling is mutual, it's good to see that there's still the possibility of mutually respectful discussion on this topic. Thank you.