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While someone could privately conduct the surveillance and sell it to the police... they then become agents of the police, given that the police are the only re

While someone could privately conduct the surveillance and sell it to the police... they then become agents of the police, given that the police are the only reasonable market for such recordings. (The other possible market is hoping that stalkers want to buy it for select locations... after the first incident, legislation would quickly shut it down.) Others in the past have noted that the police would be permitted to stake out the address in person, without warrant or much oversight. But the number of cops is finite, there are natural limits to how often and how long they can do that. There is no limit to how many cameras that police departments might collectively buy. There are plausible scenarios where multiple cameras are aimed at every address in the country. All of this can be stored indefinitely. It amounts to warrantless search.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
I imagine if cameras and IoT devices continue to miniaturize, one day they'll float on the wind like a dandelion puff. Folks could spread them around like dust. Helicopters could crop-dust them over entire cities. In future we'll have to come up with some social rules about ubiquitous surveillance. Because it will become the norm.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  That's the plot to A Deepness in the Sky. There exist no possible sets of rules to mitigate the scenario in your prediction. Find a way to avert that future.
  - JoeAltmaier 3y ago
    Doesn't seem there's any possible way to avoid that scenario. Sure we can still have privacy. I hear what goes on behind a bathroom door, but I pretend I don't. It would be the height of boorishness to say anything. Similarly, to admit you know anything about someone you learned from 'remote viewing' could be appalling manners etc. People are very adaptable. Come from a line of people who lived in tiny villages and knew everybody's business. And yet here we are.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago

I imagine if cameras and IoT devices continue to miniaturize, one day they'll float on the wind like a dandelion puff. Folks could spread them around like dust. Helicopters could crop-dust them over entire cities. In future we'll have to come up with some social rules about ubiquitous surveillance. Because it will become the norm.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
That's the plot to A Deepness in the Sky. There exist no possible sets of rules to mitigate the scenario in your prediction. Find a way to avert that future.
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  Doesn't seem there's any possible way to avoid that scenario. Sure we can still have privacy. I hear what goes on behind a bathroom door, but I pretend I don't. It would be the height of boorishness to say anything. Similarly, to admit you know anything about someone you learned from 'remote viewing' could be appalling manners etc. People are very adaptable. Come from a line of people who lived in tiny villages and knew everybody's business. And yet here we are.