- Actually getting CloudFoundery for K8S (korifi) production ready. I think one of the big pitfalls teams using Kubernetes is the level of abstraction you are

- Actually getting CloudFoundery for K8S (korifi) production ready. I think one of the big pitfalls teams using Kubernetes is the level of abstraction you are working with. With teams that have expertise, working with Kubernetes directly can work well … but if you are asking about developer experience, Kubernetes is the wrong level of abstraction. You really need an application platform built on top of Kubernetes — CloudFoundery is exactly that, but it has taken them a while to build something using native k8s resources. Using native k8s resources is important. You can make an opinionated workflow, but if you know what you are doing, you can still take it apart and reconstruct it into something specific for the team that will be using it.