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• davidw 3y ago
  I think that's a huge worry. There is a huge population there that as far as I can tell, can't just 'move a bit north' or something. Plenty of them are not very wealthy so don't have a lot of cash to spend on mitigation. It could get really ugly.
  • lolive 3y ago
    The Black Plague was a huge population stabiliser in Europe/Asia in the middle ages. Expect something quite equivalent at world scale. Note: btw, it was an absolue nightmarish period to live in !
    • hef19898 3y ago
      Apocalyptic in truest sense of the word, followed by post-apocalyptic for a bit. Funny so, that even back then society didn't really collapse into the sorry state TV wants us to believe it would today.
  • pstuart 3y ago
    > It could get really ugly Indeed, and not just there. What pains me the most is that we collectively could be mitigating this with far more vigor but that would be in conflict with the worship of the quarterly profit report.
    • davidw 3y ago
      There's plenty of local action that can be taken that aren't really about 'quarterly profits'. Does your city have parking mandates, for instance, where developers are required to furnish N parking spots per dwelling unit or store? That kind of thing locks automobile usage in place in suburbia, so that many people are stuck in a lifestyle where they are forced to use an automobile all the time, for everything. And transportation is a huge contributor to greenhouse gas emissions in the US.
      • vkou 3y ago
        Things like fighting parking mandates nibble on the problem at the edges, are net-positive, but are largely trying to push on a rope. Something like carbon taxes or caps would actually deal with the problem. Unsurprisingly, there's a lot of pushback on them.
        • davidw 3y ago
          The alliances being forged to eliminate things like parking mandates (we just did this in Bend, Oregon!) are great ones to keep pushing for more things.
      • revolvingocelot 3y ago
        I do like this idea, and other ideas like this, but can't help but observe that it's inducing a sort of functional privation without a corresponding counterbalance. We can't just work to "eliminate automobile usage in [...] suburbia" when suburbia's physical affordances don't really allow suburbanites to contend with anything else...
        • davidw 3y ago
          Sure, there's a lot going on. Another thing that we should do is re-legalize things like "neighborhood commercial". Things like corner stores or barber shops that people can walk to are functionally illegal in vast swathes of American suburbia. Part of what makes them difficult to build, even if you've solved for zoning, is oppressive parking mandates. Books like https://islandpress.org/books/arbitrary-lines https://islandpress.org/books/arbitrary-lines and https://www.brookings.edu/book/fixer-upper/ https://www.brookings.edu/book/fixer-upper/ are decent starting points for more in-depth discussions of all this.
          • frumper 3y ago
            What makes them functionally non-starters is if I go to a corner store I expect that I'm paying 20-50% more than if I went to a supermarket and if I go to a supermarket I expect to pay 10-20% more than if I went to a big box store. Your solution is to not only make a network of less price efficient stores, but have me walk to those store three to four times as often. This doesn't even account for the increased truck traffic, through our neighborhoods, that has to deliver to all of these stores instead of the handful. It also will greatly limit the options of what is for sale at particular stores because serving 100 families versus serving 10000 families will have drastically less shelf space and not make low volume items worth carrying.
  • toomuchtodo 3y ago
    https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/climate-change-unprecedented-dangerous-heat https://www.axios.com/2023/05/23/climate-change-unprecedente... ("Nearly 2 billion at risk from "unprecedented" climate conditions") > Of note: The study found that if countries only meet existing emissions reductions based on current policies, and warming were to reach 2.7°C by 2100 (4.8°F), the top 5 countries most vulnerable to unprecedented heat (based on the number of people exposed) would be India, Nigeria, Indonesia, the Philippines and Pakistan. > In this scenario, up to a third of humanity would be exposed to such extreme heat and be well outside the human climate niche, the study found. The heat would not hold off until the end of the century, but ratchet up noticeably over time. > The study concludes that for every 0.1°C (0.18°F) increase in global average surface temperatures, another 140 million people will be exposed to dangerous heat.
  • miroljub 3y ago
    I doubt Pakistanis will ever allow them to just "move north". A global war would ensue, where everyone would try to defend their southern borders from the intruders and try to "go north". And billions of deaths will happen out of necessity, since "the north" can't sustain enough food production for 7-8bn of people. And since many would die anyways, every nuclear power will make sure to use their nukes to destroy the ones trying to come from the south and to break up north. In the end, it would be a nuclear war between the USA and Russia trying to use the situation and extend the full control over the Arctic.
• CalRobert 3y ago
  Haunting expleration of how it could happen at https://www.orbitbooks.net/orbit-excerpts/the-ministry-for-the-future/ https://www.orbitbooks.net/orbit-excerpts/the-ministry-for-t...