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• jvanderbot 3y ago
  I agree. I think we will see some countries degrade, as we do today from climate and conflict. I think there will be more of them and some will be worse. Fundamentally, if you look at the level of suffering due to conflict and climate that already exists, I'm just saying we'll all be more aware of that, and HN readers are much more likely to experience that, vs saying we're all going to end up with Mad Max scenarios.
  • nomel 3y ago
    > as we do today from climate What is this in reference to? Climate deaths are at an all time low [1]. [1] https://www.humanprogress.org/the-collapse-of-climate-related-deaths-2/ https://www.humanprogress.org/the-collapse-of-climate-relate...
    • FrustratedMonky 3y ago
      Metrics like this are skewed by 'warning'. Today there are far fewer deaths by hurricane, but not because hurricanes have gotten smaller, but because we are better at predicting and evacuating. So someone saying 'hey hurricane deaths are down, no problems here', is misleading.
      • nomel 3y ago
        This is why I ask what they were referring to when they say "see some countries degrade, as we do today from climate". I don't want to have to guess about the specific metric, incorrectly most likely.