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What does "Get corporate membership with EFF" mean? Anyhow, I totally agree that the gov't is out of control. It isn't just with this copyright stuff either.

What does "Get corporate membership with EFF" mean? Anyhow, I totally agree that the gov't is out of control. It isn't just with this copyright stuff either. I sell electronic cigarettes and have an innovation to improve adoption with smokers. My product will undoubtedly be proven many times safer than smoking and more effective in helping people quit, but we face seizures and the threat of regulations which will shutter small businesses like mine. I'm doing #4, "Migrate yourself to a non-US controlled country." as soon as I can afford to.

joering2 15y ago
serious question: were you aware who you trying to compete with (or step on a toe) before going into this business? I cannot imagine being successful in such a field competing with tobacoo brands who have such a strong lobbying representation.
- praxeologist 15y ago
  Big Tobacco doesn't sell ecigs, yet anyhow. The more open opposition is from Big Pharma and those who make their living pushing "quit or die" vs. harm reduction. I just found a way to better serve consumers what they wanted.. pretty standard entrepreneurial story. If everyone let the 90%+ fail rate of businesses scare them from trying, the world would seriously suck. Part of what I need to do to succeed is recognizing the threat of legislation and finding a better place to do business. My point was that the ridiculousness of SOPA and such isn't new and hurts other parts of the economy too. (and I am genuinely curious what #0 means)
  - nextparadigms 15y ago
    > Big Tobacco doesn't sell ecigs, yet anyhow That makes you even more dangerous than if you sold regular cigarettes, because e-cigs have the potential to change the game - to change their entire industry. And big companies hate it when the industry has to radically change from a model that worked for decades.
    - joering2 15y ago
      was about to say the same. he really didnt see that his successful business could kill 200 yrs old competitor with billions of never-ending [habit] profits?
rmc 15y ago
What does "Get corporate membership with EFF" mean? Financially support an organisation that will defend your rights. It's like paying a retainer to a lawyer. You might not need them, but they will probably help fight for what's important to your business.

joering2 15y ago

serious question: were you aware who you trying to compete with (or step on a toe) before going into this business? I cannot imagine being successful in such a field competing with tobacoo brands who have such a strong lobbying representation.

praxeologist 15y ago
Big Tobacco doesn't sell ecigs, yet anyhow. The more open opposition is from Big Pharma and those who make their living pushing "quit or die" vs. harm reduction. I just found a way to better serve consumers what they wanted.. pretty standard entrepreneurial story. If everyone let the 90%+ fail rate of businesses scare them from trying, the world would seriously suck. Part of what I need to do to succeed is recognizing the threat of legislation and finding a better place to do business. My point was that the ridiculousness of SOPA and such isn't new and hurts other parts of the economy too. (and I am genuinely curious what #0 means)
- nextparadigms 15y ago
  > Big Tobacco doesn't sell ecigs, yet anyhow That makes you even more dangerous than if you sold regular cigarettes, because e-cigs have the potential to change the game - to change their entire industry. And big companies hate it when the industry has to radically change from a model that worked for decades.
  - joering2 15y ago
    was about to say the same. he really didnt see that his successful business could kill 200 yrs old competitor with billions of never-ending [habit] profits?

rmc 15y ago

What does "Get corporate membership with EFF" mean? Financially support an organisation that will defend your rights. It's like paying a retainer to a lawyer. You might not need them, but they will probably help fight for what's important to your business.