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I'm not sure how we've got from the claim the poster actually made about designated bike lanes improving property values [over regular street/sidewalk access to

I'm not sure how we've got from the claim the poster actually made about designated bike lanes improving property values [over regular street/sidewalk access to the property, and possibly highway-only access to town] to the almost entirely unrelated claim you've invented about the relative value of residential areas closed to non residents. The majority of people do not live in gated communities and even gated communities have access routes outside the gates.

lelanthran 3y ago
> I'm not sure how we've got from the claim the poster actually made about designated bike lanes improving property values [over regular street/sidewalk access to the property, and possibly highway-only access to town] That wasn't the claim the poster made. The specific claim was that bike traffic through residential areas by non-residents increase the value of properties in that residential area. >> Read on - what they were really afraid of was the dirty/smelly poors coming onto their precious island. >> You see the same BS with bike paths through residential neighborhoods. GP could not have been clearer in his implication that having public traffic pass through the residential area increases the value of that property in that area. Which is complete nonsense when you look at residential property prices in area which has a through-flow for non-residents/the public and compare to areas which are effectively gated off for residents only. Buying a house in an area that is limited to residents traffic only is damned expensive.
- notahacker 3y ago
  GP could not have been clearer that residents in somewhere that Maui, which is an island with a population of about 200k, were daft to object to the idea that easy connectivity to other islands because they were more worried about visitors from the neighbouring island than interested of the greater employment and commercial opportunities that connectivity brings. I'm not sure how you got "gated community" from that. I'm not sure that your own implication that property prices are inversely proportional to the ease of commute to where all the people and jobs are is well evidenced by representative studies either. Even if the GP was talking about gated communities, which he wasn't, they're still usually nowhere near as expensive as being cycling distance from central San Francisco or London.

lelanthran 3y ago

> I'm not sure how we've got from the claim the poster actually made about designated bike lanes improving property values [over regular street/sidewalk access to the property, and possibly highway-only access to town] That wasn't the claim the poster made. The specific claim was that bike traffic through residential areas by non-residents increase the value of properties in that residential area. >> Read on - what they were really afraid of was the dirty/smelly poors coming onto their precious island. >> You see the same BS with bike paths through residential neighborhoods. GP could not have been clearer in his implication that having public traffic pass through the residential area increases the value of that property in that area. Which is complete nonsense when you look at residential property prices in area which has a through-flow for non-residents/the public and compare to areas which are effectively gated off for residents only. Buying a house in an area that is limited to residents traffic only is damned expensive.

notahacker 3y ago
GP could not have been clearer that residents in somewhere that Maui, which is an island with a population of about 200k, were daft to object to the idea that easy connectivity to other islands because they were more worried about visitors from the neighbouring island than interested of the greater employment and commercial opportunities that connectivity brings. I'm not sure how you got "gated community" from that. I'm not sure that your own implication that property prices are inversely proportional to the ease of commute to where all the people and jobs are is well evidenced by representative studies either. Even if the GP was talking about gated communities, which he wasn't, they're still usually nowhere near as expensive as being cycling distance from central San Francisco or London.