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I wonder the year of its touchscreen. 5 years old car? Almost brand new. 5 years old touchscreen and software? It's going to be painful.

canbus 3y ago
Probably a resistive type like on really old tablets running Android 4!
- causi 3y ago
  I have serious doubt there were any tablets shipping with Android 4 that used a resistive screen. At least not any that didn't come from some no-name manufacturer for eighty bucks.
  - canbus 3y ago
    i'm probably thinking a bit older. I had an "Arnova 10G2"[0] tablet back in the day which had a resistive screen! [0] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Archos-Arnova-10b-G2-Tablet-MID.75610.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Archos-Arnova-10b-G2-Ta...
    - causi 3y ago
      Poor Archos. Went from making some of the earliest, coolest portable media players on the market to the worst android devices.
- sphars 3y ago
  I have the same system in my 2017 Civic. It's definitely a capacitive touchscreen. Essentially just a Android tablet from 2012, and it's responsive enough.
sphars 3y ago
I have a 2017 Civic, and based on the info in the OP, it's the same as the 2021 models, and yes, it's severely dated. Though it's Android 4.4, which gives me some nostalgia from my Nexus 4 and the Holo era of Android
- expertentipp 3y ago
  Awww nostalgia hits... some very very long time ago I was working on software tested on KitKat. It's better not to mention it during interviews otherwise will be dismissed as a dinosaur.
  - hparadiz 3y ago
    I have it on my 2020 civic and at least it doesn't lag. Problem with newer builds is the inevitable creep of increased CPU and memory usage until eventually perfectly good hardware is no longer able to run anything.
    - dom96 3y ago
      yep, I also have a 2020 Civic and the software actually is alright, though perhaps my expectations were set really low by the amount of hate I read about the software online. But hey, it supports CarPlay just fine (although does have some weird graphical artifacts sometimes) and the screen is responsive enough which is all that I really want.
      - librick 3y ago
        I can't speak to CarPlay but yea I'll say the headunit software is certainly usable. One of the reasons I started this project was because I admire the engineering involved. I wish they would've shipped wireless Android Auto though. My car only works with wired Android Auto. It was only a minor inconvenience until I broke a USB-C cable. I rely on my car, I didn't need a failure point in my navigation. I ended up buying an adapter (the Motorola MA1) that lets me use Android Auto wirelessly (the MA1 worked okay, I had a few issues where it would randomly reboot but one day that stopped and I still don't know why; it's finicky). It just seems absurd to have a whole separate hardware/software stack in the form of an adapter just because Honda couldn't use a newer Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chip
    - librick 3y ago
      Yea I tend to have pretty high memory usage, including when I was running close to stock (i.e., before installing a bunch of third-party apps). My model didn't come with a built-in GPS app, but I was told that the next trim up/more expensive model did. I think more expensive trims came with headunits with more RAM (I think 4GB?) but I can't confirm. It'd be great to see a PR from someone with better hardware to see the actual headunit differences between trims

canbus 3y ago

Probably a resistive type like on really old tablets running Android 4!

causi 3y ago
I have serious doubt there were any tablets shipping with Android 4 that used a resistive screen. At least not any that didn't come from some no-name manufacturer for eighty bucks.
- canbus 3y ago
  i'm probably thinking a bit older. I had an "Arnova 10G2"[0] tablet back in the day which had a resistive screen! [0] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Archos-Arnova-10b-G2-Tablet-MID.75610.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Archos-Arnova-10b-G2-Ta...
  - causi 3y ago
    Poor Archos. Went from making some of the earliest, coolest portable media players on the market to the worst android devices.
sphars 3y ago
I have the same system in my 2017 Civic. It's definitely a capacitive touchscreen. Essentially just a Android tablet from 2012, and it's responsive enough.

sphars 3y ago

I have a 2017 Civic, and based on the info in the OP, it's the same as the 2021 models, and yes, it's severely dated. Though it's Android 4.4, which gives me some nostalgia from my Nexus 4 and the Holo era of Android

expertentipp 3y ago
Awww nostalgia hits... some very very long time ago I was working on software tested on KitKat. It's better not to mention it during interviews otherwise will be dismissed as a dinosaur.
- hparadiz 3y ago
  I have it on my 2020 civic and at least it doesn't lag. Problem with newer builds is the inevitable creep of increased CPU and memory usage until eventually perfectly good hardware is no longer able to run anything.
  - dom96 3y ago
    yep, I also have a 2020 Civic and the software actually is alright, though perhaps my expectations were set really low by the amount of hate I read about the software online. But hey, it supports CarPlay just fine (although does have some weird graphical artifacts sometimes) and the screen is responsive enough which is all that I really want.
    - librick 3y ago
      I can't speak to CarPlay but yea I'll say the headunit software is certainly usable. One of the reasons I started this project was because I admire the engineering involved. I wish they would've shipped wireless Android Auto though. My car only works with wired Android Auto. It was only a minor inconvenience until I broke a USB-C cable. I rely on my car, I didn't need a failure point in my navigation. I ended up buying an adapter (the Motorola MA1) that lets me use Android Auto wirelessly (the MA1 worked okay, I had a few issues where it would randomly reboot but one day that stopped and I still don't know why; it's finicky). It just seems absurd to have a whole separate hardware/software stack in the form of an adapter just because Honda couldn't use a newer Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chip
  - librick 3y ago
    Yea I tend to have pretty high memory usage, including when I was running close to stock (i.e., before installing a bunch of third-party apps). My model didn't come with a built-in GPS app, but I was told that the next trim up/more expensive model did. I think more expensive trims came with headunits with more RAM (I think 4GB?) but I can't confirm. It'd be great to see a PR from someone with better hardware to see the actual headunit differences between trims