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Ok, that settles it! Since I have never personally experienced police brutality, racism or sexism, I am going to be as dismissive when someone tells me of their

Ok, that settles it! Since I have never personally experienced police brutality, racism or sexism, I am going to be as dismissive when someone tells me of their personal experiences as you are of my account of an SF guy muttering with a knife. Alternatively, you could consider that you might have some special circumstances. For example, since you always lived in cities, you may have intuitions about where and when to go or not to go, and how to act to discourage troublemakers from approaching. You may just look not as the type to mess with. Or you might have just been lucky so far.

wolverine876 3y ago
People deploy personal experience like a trump card, especially like issues on this. An urban friend and I laugh about the ultimate trump card people try to play - human feces, a blatent attempt to arouse maximal emotions of disgust, and bypass any rationality (how do you know it's human? How closely did you examine it :D ? Did you take it home at test it?). Again, never seen it myself - as far as I know!. Right? It's rude to question someone's personal experience; that's what makes it such an awesome trump card. But I'm also not going to stand quietly any more and let the disinformation BS pass. I don't know your experience. I know cities, and it's very hard to believe most of these reports on HN are true. > police brutality, racism or sexism A great signal of this stuff, the equivalency facade. Those things are the powerful abusing the vulnerable, a serious concern that oppresses and kills people. The vulnerable discomfitting the powerful - with human feces! - y'know, suck it up buttercup. Not a crisis. > you may have intuitions about where and when to go or not to go, and how to act to discourage troublemakers from approaching. Actually, my well-developed intuition is that you can go anywhere, talk to anyone, and you'll be fine. People live in these neighborhoods their whole lives are 99% are fine. I mean, read the room a little - whatever neighborhood you're in, if someone looks like they are upset or busy, don't be some rude idiot. Just be a human being. Don't look tense and people won't be afraid of you and react badly. Act nervous and they'll be nervous. > You may just look not as the type to mess with. Actually, people talk to me all the time. It's just people.
- cat_plus_plus 3y ago
  Yeah ignoring people's personal experiences is how you got a Trump card and will probably get it again in '24. Goes both ways, communist dictatorships certainly got their fuel from out of touch elites. But your insistence that others should scrutinize things on streets that look like human feces rather than enjoying clean streets is telling.

wolverine876 3y ago

People deploy personal experience like a trump card, especially like issues on this. An urban friend and I laugh about the ultimate trump card people try to play - human feces, a blatent attempt to arouse maximal emotions of disgust, and bypass any rationality (how do you know it's human? How closely did you examine it :D ? Did you take it home at test it?). Again, never seen it myself - as far as I know!. Right? It's rude to question someone's personal experience; that's what makes it such an awesome trump card. But I'm also not going to stand quietly any more and let the disinformation BS pass. I don't know your experience. I know cities, and it's very hard to believe most of these reports on HN are true. > police brutality, racism or sexism A great signal of this stuff, the equivalency facade. Those things are the powerful abusing the vulnerable, a serious concern that oppresses and kills people. The vulnerable discomfitting the powerful - with human feces! - y'know, suck it up buttercup. Not a crisis. > you may have intuitions about where and when to go or not to go, and how to act to discourage troublemakers from approaching. Actually, my well-developed intuition is that you can go anywhere, talk to anyone, and you'll be fine. People live in these neighborhoods their whole lives are 99% are fine. I mean, read the room a little - whatever neighborhood you're in, if someone looks like they are upset or busy, don't be some rude idiot. Just be a human being. Don't look tense and people won't be afraid of you and react badly. Act nervous and they'll be nervous. > You may just look not as the type to mess with. Actually, people talk to me all the time. It's just people.

cat_plus_plus 3y ago
Yeah ignoring people's personal experiences is how you got a Trump card and will probably get it again in '24. Goes both ways, communist dictatorships certainly got their fuel from out of touch elites. But your insistence that others should scrutinize things on streets that look like human feces rather than enjoying clean streets is telling.