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Nobody felt entitled to WFH pre-2020. Not sure why a virus changes things

harimau777 3y ago
Likely two factors: The pandemic demonstrated that WFH works. The pandemic made people realize how bad America's world life balance is.
- throwaway2990 3y ago
  > The pandemic demonstrated that WFH works. Can work. “Works” isn’t correct as it’s obvious that it doesn’t just work. Some people don’t work well remotely. Collaboration is much harder remotely. If you have clear work outlined working from home for some* people can be great cos they can focus well and get shit done and be super productive. Other people cannot focus as well in a non work environment no matter how worky you make it. Being in the office gives them more focus.
  - great_psy 3y ago
    So seems we should have the option to work from home, or from office. Wouldn’t that fix both groups ?
    - throwaway2990 3y ago
      100% I think in some cases a hybrid approach is best. Like 3-4 days at home and 1 day in the office or bi-weekly day in the office. If live within range. But it all depends on the business and individuals. I just think forced remote or forced in-office is wrong. It should be flexible. My 2c
p0pcult 3y ago
Nobody felt entitled to 5 day work weeks before the labor movement, either. So, when are you going back to 7 days in the office, friendo?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
  The government will punish me and the company if I do that. I am also forced to take my vacation. Even when the government says I can't go anywhere. I. Must. Not. Work.
  - js8 3y ago
    If you're talking about labor laws, that is not true. They only specify that the employer cannot demand you to work 7 days a week, but you still can if you choose to (e.g. as a contractor).
    - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
      I'm not sure what country you're talking about but that ain't what it's like where I live.
paulryanrogers 3y ago
Sure we did. And some of us walked away from companies who wouldn't budge. COVID just introduced the possibility to more folks, expanding our ranks.
dudul 3y ago
Nobody felt entitled to owning lands before the end of serfdom.
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culopatin 3y ago
It’s only “the virus” if that’s how shallow you want to go and ignore the fact that the whole planet was forced to try WFH and people liked it, so that’s why they want it. Worker rights came from events that you call “people feeling entitled”.

Likely two factors: The pandemic demonstrated that WFH works. The pandemic made people realize how bad America's world life balance is.

throwaway2990 3y ago
> The pandemic demonstrated that WFH works. Can work. “Works” isn’t correct as it’s obvious that it doesn’t just work. Some people don’t work well remotely. Collaboration is much harder remotely. If you have clear work outlined working from home for some* people can be great cos they can focus well and get shit done and be super productive. Other people cannot focus as well in a non work environment no matter how worky you make it. Being in the office gives them more focus.
- great_psy 3y ago
  So seems we should have the option to work from home, or from office. Wouldn’t that fix both groups ?
  - throwaway2990 3y ago
    100% I think in some cases a hybrid approach is best. Like 3-4 days at home and 1 day in the office or bi-weekly day in the office. If live within range. But it all depends on the business and individuals. I just think forced remote or forced in-office is wrong. It should be flexible. My 2c

p0pcult 3y ago

Nobody felt entitled to 5 day work weeks before the labor movement, either. So, when are you going back to 7 days in the office, friendo?

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
The government will punish me and the company if I do that. I am also forced to take my vacation. Even when the government says I can't go anywhere. I. Must. Not. Work.
- js8 3y ago
  If you're talking about labor laws, that is not true. They only specify that the employer cannot demand you to work 7 days a week, but you still can if you choose to (e.g. as a contractor).
  - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
    I'm not sure what country you're talking about but that ain't what it's like where I live.

paulryanrogers 3y ago

Sure we did. And some of us walked away from companies who wouldn't budge. COVID just introduced the possibility to more folks, expanding our ranks.

dudul 3y ago

Nobody felt entitled to owning lands before the end of serfdom.

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culopatin 3y ago

It’s only “the virus” if that’s how shallow you want to go and ignore the fact that the whole planet was forced to try WFH and people liked it, so that’s why they want it. Worker rights came from events that you call “people feeling entitled”.