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How do the Amazon warehouse workers feel about that? I could guess, but I don't know for sure.

by nancyhn 3y ago

inetknght 3y ago
I would absolutely support warehouse workers who stand up for their own collective bargaining rights.
gaze 3y ago
I’m curious where you’re going with this
- gumballindie 3y ago
  “If I cant have it neither should you.“ probably. I am not sure whom their thought leaders are but i have been seeing this more often in the recent months on reddit.
- jrflowers 3y ago
  I agree. “I’m imagining a scenario” is an interesting thing to post.
- paxys 3y ago
  I imagine it's the usual "someone else's life sucks so yours must suck as well" argument that is used against workers.
  - zerbinxx 3y ago
    I think you’re reading that upside down. Commenter is saying “I think I should be able to work from home, and those who MUST go in (warehouse people) should get extra compensation to pay for the commute”
- Eisenstein 3y ago
  Divide and conquer, that's where.
satvikpendem 3y ago
Well, you can't remotely pack items in a box.
great_psy 3y ago
You’re looking at it in a backwards way. I want to work from home. And while I understand warehouse workers cannot wfh, I think they should get paid regular wage for their commute time. Don’t go back in time.
- shagie 3y ago
  Paying a person for a commute opens up many and large cans of worms. Do you trust all of the workers to accurately report when they left home? How do you handle a person who carpools and has an extra 30 minutes of diversion for that carpool drop off route? When I was in Eau Claire, one of my coworkers commuted from Minneapolis (for various reasons) - 1.5h each way. As we were not exempt workers (and I suspect that warehouse workers aren't exempt either) should he get time and a half for working 6h in a day? When we had a blizzard one day and he decided to not take a day off and ended up with a 5h trip in (and I suspect a at least 2h on the way back) should he be getting time and a half for that? Can I get fired for moving further away from the place of employment even if I show up on time for work each day? This year my commute is 30 minutes each way, and then I move another 15m further away next year... and another 15m away the next year... Alice and Bob are neighbors. Alice drives in (30 min commute) while Bob takes the bus (2h with transfers). Those crazy SF2G people commute in on bike ( https://sf2g.com https://sf2g.com ). The half moon bay route is about 4.5h... Charlie bikes to work in the summer (and drives in inclement weather). Biking to work is 2h while driving is 20 minutes. Does he get paid 2h if he shows up on a bike (and then needs to take a shower and change) vs only paid for 20 minutes if he drives? Could the employer mandate that he drives to work? David drives through McDs each day for breakfast (adding 7 minutes to the commute in). Does he get paid for that additional (unnecessary) time? Today the drive through is broken so he stops, gets out, orders in and eats breakfast in (15 min). Does he get paid for the entire "left house" to "arrived at office"? Only in the car (+7 min drive through)? Or did it reset when he got out of the car at McDs? Edward normally has a 20 minute commute. Today, his kids missed the school bus today and so he drove his kids 20 minutes in the other direction resulting in 1h total commute time. Does he get paid for 40 more minutes (turns out it pays better to drive the kids to school rather than the bus pass!) Freddie normally drives in (it's a short commute - only 10 min), but today is a nice day and the shift doesn't start until later this afternoon and decides to walk to work instead (1.5h). George lives up north and in the winter snowmobiles in to the warehouse rather than taking a car. It's another 15 min because he can't take the highway (and yes, I've seen snowmobile parking at a distribution center up north). --- I'm not going to say that it is wrong to compensate someone for commute time. I will say that compensating someone for commute time will create things that other people regard as profoundly unfair and may incentivize things that we would rather not have be the case.
bunbun69 3y ago
Seems like you’ve been indoctrinated by Elon as well

How do the Amazon warehouse workers feel about that? I could guess, but I don't know for sure.

inetknght 3y ago

I would absolutely support warehouse workers who stand up for their own collective bargaining rights.

gaze 3y ago

I’m curious where you’re going with this

gumballindie 3y ago
“If I cant have it neither should you.“ probably. I am not sure whom their thought leaders are but i have been seeing this more often in the recent months on reddit.
jrflowers 3y ago
I agree. “I’m imagining a scenario” is an interesting thing to post.
paxys 3y ago
I imagine it's the usual "someone else's life sucks so yours must suck as well" argument that is used against workers.
- zerbinxx 3y ago
  I think you’re reading that upside down. Commenter is saying “I think I should be able to work from home, and those who MUST go in (warehouse people) should get extra compensation to pay for the commute”
Eisenstein 3y ago
Divide and conquer, that's where.

satvikpendem 3y ago

Well, you can't remotely pack items in a box.

great_psy 3y ago

You’re looking at it in a backwards way. I want to work from home. And while I understand warehouse workers cannot wfh, I think they should get paid regular wage for their commute time. Don’t go back in time.

shagie 3y ago
Paying a person for a commute opens up many and large cans of worms. Do you trust all of the workers to accurately report when they left home? How do you handle a person who carpools and has an extra 30 minutes of diversion for that carpool drop off route? When I was in Eau Claire, one of my coworkers commuted from Minneapolis (for various reasons) - 1.5h each way. As we were not exempt workers (and I suspect that warehouse workers aren't exempt either) should he get time and a half for working 6h in a day? When we had a blizzard one day and he decided to not take a day off and ended up with a 5h trip in (and I suspect a at least 2h on the way back) should he be getting time and a half for that? Can I get fired for moving further away from the place of employment even if I show up on time for work each day? This year my commute is 30 minutes each way, and then I move another 15m further away next year... and another 15m away the next year... Alice and Bob are neighbors. Alice drives in (30 min commute) while Bob takes the bus (2h with transfers). Those crazy SF2G people commute in on bike ( https://sf2g.com https://sf2g.com ). The half moon bay route is about 4.5h... Charlie bikes to work in the summer (and drives in inclement weather). Biking to work is 2h while driving is 20 minutes. Does he get paid 2h if he shows up on a bike (and then needs to take a shower and change) vs only paid for 20 minutes if he drives? Could the employer mandate that he drives to work? David drives through McDs each day for breakfast (adding 7 minutes to the commute in). Does he get paid for that additional (unnecessary) time? Today the drive through is broken so he stops, gets out, orders in and eats breakfast in (15 min). Does he get paid for the entire "left house" to "arrived at office"? Only in the car (+7 min drive through)? Or did it reset when he got out of the car at McDs? Edward normally has a 20 minute commute. Today, his kids missed the school bus today and so he drove his kids 20 minutes in the other direction resulting in 1h total commute time. Does he get paid for 40 more minutes (turns out it pays better to drive the kids to school rather than the bus pass!) Freddie normally drives in (it's a short commute - only 10 min), but today is a nice day and the shift doesn't start until later this afternoon and decides to walk to work instead (1.5h). George lives up north and in the winter snowmobiles in to the warehouse rather than taking a car. It's another 15 min because he can't take the highway (and yes, I've seen snowmobile parking at a distribution center up north). --- I'm not going to say that it is wrong to compensate someone for commute time. I will say that compensating someone for commute time will create things that other people regard as profoundly unfair and may incentivize things that we would rather not have be the case.

bunbun69 3y ago

Seems like you’ve been indoctrinated by Elon as well