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> parents usually understand fully > I doubt this is a common or inevitable consequence. I think if you speak with a psychotherapeut which keeps up with the c

> parents usually understand fully > I doubt this is a common or inevitable consequence. I think if you speak with a psychotherapeut which keeps up with the current state of research/sience the answer would be: no many parent have no idea what they are doing, and it is VERY common. It's common enough that some people claim abusing this dynamic is the main source of income for Fortnight ... > If that's important to a particular child, give them a camera. They do still exist. this fully misses the point, it's not about making photos, it's about sharing them and slightly about funny filters etc. and do you think a parent who doesn't allow their child to have a phone would allow them to chair photos without a lot of friction?

JohnFen 3y ago
> no many parent have no idea what they are doing Absolutely true, but not relevant to the point that I was trying to make. Kids often claim that parents don't understand the kid's point of view, but parents usually do. That was all I was saying. I wasn't claiming that parents were experts on parenting. > it's not about making photos, it's about sharing them and slightly about funny filters etc. I understood the point. You can do that with a digital camera. It just takes extra steps and is less immediate. > do you think a parent who doesn't allow their child to have a phone would allow them to chair photos without a lot of friction? Maybe not all, but many absolutely will. I did with my children, and I wasn't unusual in that. The issue isn't sharing or talking with friends, the issue is unfettered exposure to social media.
- dathinab 3y ago
  > the issue is unfettered exposure to social media. I half agree, but think the issue is more "exposure to unfettered social media" (a bit of a word stunt* I guess, but I'm sure you get what I mean). Through as a parent I agree that there is only so much you can do about social media itself, so you have to find a compromise like you did. *it's more like the access/view the child has to (a potential subset) of a social media providers content then the social media itself

JohnFen 3y ago

> no many parent have no idea what they are doing Absolutely true, but not relevant to the point that I was trying to make. Kids often claim that parents don't understand the kid's point of view, but parents usually do. That was all I was saying. I wasn't claiming that parents were experts on parenting. > it's not about making photos, it's about sharing them and slightly about funny filters etc. I understood the point. You can do that with a digital camera. It just takes extra steps and is less immediate. > do you think a parent who doesn't allow their child to have a phone would allow them to chair photos without a lot of friction? Maybe not all, but many absolutely will. I did with my children, and I wasn't unusual in that. The issue isn't sharing or talking with friends, the issue is unfettered exposure to social media.

dathinab 3y ago
> the issue is unfettered exposure to social media. I half agree, but think the issue is more "exposure to unfettered social media" (a bit of a word stunt* I guess, but I'm sure you get what I mean). Through as a parent I agree that there is only so much you can do about social media itself, so you have to find a compromise like you did. *it's more like the access/view the child has to (a potential subset) of a social media providers content then the social media itself