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If they had kept Super Mario 64 and/or Super Mario Sunshine and/or Super Mario Galaxy available for sale since their consoles were discontinued, Nintendo wouldn

If they had kept Super Mario 64 and/or Super Mario Sunshine and/or Super Mario Galaxy available for sale since their consoles were discontinued, Nintendo wouldn’t have sold 9 million+ copies of Super Mario 3D All Stars. I bet they make more from re-releasing ports of “vault” titles than they would keeping them for sale forever.

gjsman-1000 3y ago
> I bet they make more from re-releasing ports of “vault” titles than they would keeping them for sale forever. Believe me; movie studios and game companies have re-releases down to a science. Disney (arguably) perfected it first with their "Disney Vault" scheme. It increases the value to buyers when it's available for sale; and it also helps the company if there is little new content to offer for the year. I'm surprised so few people put together that Super Mario 3D All-Stars is actually Nintendo perfectly following the Disney Vault script.
- crooked-v 3y ago
  Disney themselves have abandoned the 'Vault' strategy after deciding that continuous sales were more profitable, which probably has something to do with people not recognizing it and/or thinking it's absurd to see in this day and age.
naikrovek 3y ago
> If they had kept Super Mario 64 and/or Super Mario Sunshine and/or Super Mario Galaxy available for sale since their consoles were discontinued, Nintendo wouldn’t have sold 9 million+ copies of Super Mario 3D All Stars. I think they would have. those games are all available on the 2nd hand market easily. I don't mind paying for remasters of games I already own for older hardware, anyway, because remasters are not a big expense for me and by buying remasters I send my vote that I want remasters. I mean, it's Nintendo's IP. they can do what they want. I think the way they do things is very short-sighted, though.
- astrange 3y ago
  3D All Stars has some remastering, but other parts are worse than the original - SM64 doesn't emulate N64 texture mapping properly, making it too blurry, and Sunshine doesn't emulate floating-point properly, leading to physics glitches.
  - naikrovek 3y ago
    ok? I still bought it and I'm still happy with it. I don't need it to be perfect.
asveikau 3y ago
I'm not sure I follow this. afaik this compilation puts it on Switch, since you previously needed an N64, plus Wii and/or GameCube to play the originals. I guess sm64 was available on Wii and 3ds too. Is the claim that they need to de-list those from Wii stores to get people to buy on switch? Was it available on other means for Switch before? I think a new port requiring a new purchase seems fair, and there's a target market in that one for those who missed those prior generation of games, or who want it on the switch hardware.

gjsman-1000 3y ago

> I bet they make more from re-releasing ports of “vault” titles than they would keeping them for sale forever. Believe me; movie studios and game companies have re-releases down to a science. Disney (arguably) perfected it first with their "Disney Vault" scheme. It increases the value to buyers when it's available for sale; and it also helps the company if there is little new content to offer for the year. I'm surprised so few people put together that Super Mario 3D All-Stars is actually Nintendo perfectly following the Disney Vault script.

crooked-v 3y ago
Disney themselves have abandoned the 'Vault' strategy after deciding that continuous sales were more profitable, which probably has something to do with people not recognizing it and/or thinking it's absurd to see in this day and age.

naikrovek 3y ago

> If they had kept Super Mario 64 and/or Super Mario Sunshine and/or Super Mario Galaxy available for sale since their consoles were discontinued, Nintendo wouldn’t have sold 9 million+ copies of Super Mario 3D All Stars. I think they would have. those games are all available on the 2nd hand market easily. I don't mind paying for remasters of games I already own for older hardware, anyway, because remasters are not a big expense for me and by buying remasters I send my vote that I want remasters. I mean, it's Nintendo's IP. they can do what they want. I think the way they do things is very short-sighted, though.

astrange 3y ago
3D All Stars has some remastering, but other parts are worse than the original - SM64 doesn't emulate N64 texture mapping properly, making it too blurry, and Sunshine doesn't emulate floating-point properly, leading to physics glitches.
- naikrovek 3y ago
  ok? I still bought it and I'm still happy with it. I don't need it to be perfect.

asveikau 3y ago

I'm not sure I follow this. afaik this compilation puts it on Switch, since you previously needed an N64, plus Wii and/or GameCube to play the originals. I guess sm64 was available on Wii and 3ds too. Is the claim that they need to de-list those from Wii stores to get people to buy on switch? Was it available on other means for Switch before? I think a new port requiring a new purchase seems fair, and there's a target market in that one for those who missed those prior generation of games, or who want it on the switch hardware.