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If Tesla's competitors were able to get government FSD permits without all that data. Maybe that data isn't really important to achieve the target

• deepzn 3y ago
  if we're talking about overall effectiveness, then I think it is. Maybe passing a minimum threshold and having a safety effective of say 95% vs 99% or something. It's obviously going to be a very high percentage threshold that needs to be crossed to allow the public to use it. So, right now it's like a trial experiment with FSD, but I definitely feel like a data advantage would play out into a higher safety rating before it's in GA. Maybe eventually others will catch up, that could be quicker than longer, but it's a valid potential advantage for Tesla.
  • zamnos 3y ago
    just to nitpick, but with airline travel about five or six nines (99.9999%) safe, that is, one fatality every million miles of travel or so, 95% vs 99% is nowhere near good enough. https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/how-safe-were-commercial-airline-flights-in-2021/147791.article https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/how-safe-were-commerci...
    • minwcnt5 3y ago
      One million flights not one million miles of travel. There'd be a lot of dead frequent fliers if it was a death per million miles.
    • deepzn 3y ago
      Yes it will be likely needing a 99.99%+ accuracy. I just made a vague suggestion, as I didn't have time to look it up. Elon mentioned it too, it doesn't just need to better than a human, but massively better. I don't know the exact accident stats for human drivers. But self-driving cars will need to be much higher.