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For me the most awesome thing here is the 100MB file upload function. May sound like nothing, but this is groundbreaking when we've been so far constrained by t

For me the most awesome thing here is the 100MB file upload function. May sound like nothing, but this is groundbreaking when we've been so far constrained by token limits. This means we don't need to endure an arduous back-and-forth process of giving it tiny pieces of data, code, and increasingly creative prompts. It can now just injest an entire dataset or software project and make swathing changes of all manner. This is going to disrupt everything (and already is..). I'm left wondering what the role of a software eng is and all I can come up with is a glorified quality analyst. Nothing wrong with that, but it's just such a transformation, and so sudden. I'm excited, scared, and exhausted all at the same time!

JohnFen 3y ago
> Nothing wrong with that Unless, of course, you want to be a software engineer. If all there is to my career is checking generated code for correctness, then there is nothing of value in my career anymore. That's not how it will be, though. At worst, there will still be niches I can fit in.
- fbrncci 3y ago
  I could imagine that we will probably be checking generated code for correcteness while integrating larger parts of generated code. And due to the sheer complexity will need an en engineering understanding to make it all work. I’m excited for that, because it means I can do more with my time. But I also understand how that is not everyone’s cup of tea. > Unless, of course, you want to be a software engineer. It’s time to adapt to a changing world.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    > I could imagine that we will probably be checking generated code for correcteness while integrating larger parts of generated code. So we're all to become systems integrators? I'm genuinely happy that excites you. Personally, I find the prospect depressing. > It’s time to adapt to a changing world. How do you adapt to no longer being able to do what you love to do? Saying "it's time to adapt" doesn't address the fundamental issue here at all. Obviously, we have to adapt. The question is how to do that and, if happiness is no longer on the table, at least be able to maintain some amount of career satisfaction. If I can't write software, then my career as a dev is over, no?
    - dudeofea 3y ago
      learn to co....oh
      - TeMPOraL 3y ago
        D'oh. That one really didn't age well, did it?
    - flangola7 3y ago
      You'll get the same answer the Luddites did over a century ago: crickets
    - the_only_law 3y ago
      > How do you adapt to no longer being able to do what you love to do? Saying "it's time to adapt" doesn't address the fundamental issue here at all. Obviously, we have to adapt. The question is how to do that and, if happiness is no longer on the table, at least be able to maintain some amount of career satisfaction. Forget “love” how are we supposed to adapt when jobs seem to be increasingly specialized requiring ridiculous education costs and companies don’t want to train people anymore.
    - JieJie 3y ago
      Interestingly, this is what a lot of coal miners in West Virginia feel, too. Humans gotta realize that we are all replaceable. What happens to the least of us, happens to us all. Whatever we do about this AI stuff? We should do it for everything else, too. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/west-virginia-coal-industry-grapples-impact-climate-crisis-rcna2397 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/west-virginia-co...
      - gwoolhurme 3y ago
        When I made this comparison I was trashed in the comments. Not at the hyperbole of it (I don't think it is), that they are in poverty now while we are not. That we should have saved money. Which, shocker, not all of us work in California with those salaries... At this point as a SWE my only goal is to try and find IT employment to support loved ones and keep my visa till I get permanent residence. Fuck everything, just survive at this point. I loved programming, if that is ripped from me, then survive is all I want to do. That or jump in front of a train.
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JohnFen 3y ago

> Nothing wrong with that Unless, of course, you want to be a software engineer. If all there is to my career is checking generated code for correctness, then there is nothing of value in my career anymore. That's not how it will be, though. At worst, there will still be niches I can fit in.

fbrncci 3y ago
I could imagine that we will probably be checking generated code for correcteness while integrating larger parts of generated code. And due to the sheer complexity will need an en engineering understanding to make it all work. I’m excited for that, because it means I can do more with my time. But I also understand how that is not everyone’s cup of tea. > Unless, of course, you want to be a software engineer. It’s time to adapt to a changing world.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > I could imagine that we will probably be checking generated code for correcteness while integrating larger parts of generated code. So we're all to become systems integrators? I'm genuinely happy that excites you. Personally, I find the prospect depressing. > It’s time to adapt to a changing world. How do you adapt to no longer being able to do what you love to do? Saying "it's time to adapt" doesn't address the fundamental issue here at all. Obviously, we have to adapt. The question is how to do that and, if happiness is no longer on the table, at least be able to maintain some amount of career satisfaction. If I can't write software, then my career as a dev is over, no?
  - dudeofea 3y ago
    learn to co....oh
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      D'oh. That one really didn't age well, did it?
  - flangola7 3y ago
    You'll get the same answer the Luddites did over a century ago: crickets
  - the_only_law 3y ago
    > How do you adapt to no longer being able to do what you love to do? Saying "it's time to adapt" doesn't address the fundamental issue here at all. Obviously, we have to adapt. The question is how to do that and, if happiness is no longer on the table, at least be able to maintain some amount of career satisfaction. Forget “love” how are we supposed to adapt when jobs seem to be increasingly specialized requiring ridiculous education costs and companies don’t want to train people anymore.
  - JieJie 3y ago
    Interestingly, this is what a lot of coal miners in West Virginia feel, too. Humans gotta realize that we are all replaceable. What happens to the least of us, happens to us all. Whatever we do about this AI stuff? We should do it for everything else, too. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/west-virginia-coal-industry-grapples-impact-climate-crisis-rcna2397 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/west-virginia-co...
    - gwoolhurme 3y ago
      When I made this comparison I was trashed in the comments. Not at the hyperbole of it (I don't think it is), that they are in poverty now while we are not. That we should have saved money. Which, shocker, not all of us work in California with those salaries... At this point as a SWE my only goal is to try and find IT employment to support loved ones and keep my visa till I get permanent residence. Fuck everything, just survive at this point. I loved programming, if that is ripped from me, then survive is all I want to do. That or jump in front of a train.
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